Leland Madearis http://jta.org/user/profile/68348 en-us rcsillag@jta.org Copyright 2009 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 CM, most on here don't know about "shackle-and -hoist." Only those who read the Forward, maybe. I've covered it before but please explain it again. I'll leave the room to throw up while it is discussed. But afterall, the "the hoisters" are those who save their money all year to take their family to watch a guy in rose-colored tights kill an exhausted bull with a sword who then cuts off the dead animals ears and throws it to the worshiping crowd. Yeah, I guess that culture would produce good slaughter house workers. {Not to mention future citizens, neighbors, voters, school mates for your children, and gang variety POGROMISTS and driveby marksmen and women. } After that, I think maybe I'll drop Mexico in favor of Costa Rico or Recife. } 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 CM, I call it "trinitite" since my Dad was at Alamagordo in the beginning. I prefer that spidery turquoise from Marinci, to be honest. At least one in the party has to be Espanol fluent. Not me. A lot of Russians from San Diego party in that area. It is doubtful one could find a Gogol reader among them. Rock star experts but not much lit. of any kind. I could lose the parrot. Clamydia, ya know. Never had it, don't want it and can't spell it.It might be better to trade the shrimp for a couple fish tacos if we could find a pushcart on the pier. Start slow and build up a good gastro-immune system, however. Someday. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Don't eat so much meat. It's not good for you. Stuffing dead, burned animals down your throat is a peculiar habit and hard to break. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 What word? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I'll go with the likes of British Intell and Amb. John Bolton. They have developed some, stolen some, bought some and are on the verge of a nuclear weapon. And I will stick with my own personal inferrances. I have been on this for months and bored some of you to desparation. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I don't know about the trade thing but "these" Christians and "that" Christian [ the Pope } will be the best friends Israel will ever have. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Screen name. Screed name? Sorry, Izz.......I couldn't resist. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 This guy sounds too good to be true. He almost has to be CFR. I get "Foreign Affairs" but don't think they'd let me park cars. There would appear to be a rising sentiment running counter to Iran. After all, they aren't Arabs. Iraq would be happy to send a few volunteers. Kuwait could hire Phillipinos and send them. [certainly not their own kids! ] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Yeah, Cheryl.......I could see myself drinking beer and eating boiled shrimp on a pier South of Ensenada with a dog and a parrot with me. Nobody else would hang, probably. One Saturday night in the village inn and you'd never go back to West LA. Or belaire for that matter. Nice, genuine people if a little bigoted. And heck, who isn't? Maybe, I'll see you there. I'm fat and will be driving a Ford Escort. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Progress on this issue can only be measured in how much smoke and molten sand is coming out of the hole-in-the-ground entrace to ALL the nuclear facilities in Iran and no civilian casualties. That's progress. Not ME style hum-hawing, yawning, pretending to be bored, ordering more coffee and hash, winking at the waiter, talking about racing camels, Rolexes, hunting falcons and ordering up a plump "chemische" blonde on the cell phone. That my friend is stalling and can get you and yours incinerated! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Saul, I suggest you take some bribe money, some extra luggage and get a family OUT of there. And bring an order of that GOOD, Chinese food home to me! The best Chinese food [ outside China ] is in Seoul, Korea. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Comm center TT clerk. Not on the mission and no need to "know". The best of clearances but not on the mission. Just evesdropping and reading the messages. When a sensitive message would come through a "prior prompt" would come through with an "eyes of--------only" text. Then the "recipiant" would come in, put his ID code through, excuse the clerk from the room, receive the message, read it THREE times and then burn it and stir the ashes before letting the clerk back in the comm center. Was that you leaving the room? Is that your knowledge and expereience? All I ever used was carrier pigeons. Civil War ya know. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 "Stall" is the name of the Iranian game. Anyone who cooperates with that is on the wrong side. Arkady yer right. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 You mean the modern Kahane brigades? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Izzy=Tamarzie. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Mexico stands ready to attack Iran. They are highly skilled and can do it on the cheap. They took California without firing a shot and we paid them to do it. They are well on their way to taking the larger cities in the Mid-West without firing a shot. [OK so they fire a few shots at each other but they're just competing for franchizes to sell friendly Gringos recreational drugs. ] Their inevitable offspring would be "Merranians." These, of course, to be distinguished from "Marranos" of which I am one. Too much for ya? Oh, well. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Sager an Arab? Izzy or Izzy not? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The only ones crucified nowadays are the animals in Postville. Or did they get a temporary stay of execution? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Dis-likers of the Holocaust would do better to help move those leftover who survived to places where it is less likely to happen again. I don;t remember you getting on the ride for that. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I've heard it all before. Get off the Russia thing. All I'm saying is that there was a wide variety of victims killed. There is a group who does not want them mentioned or noted on any Holocaust memorials or speeches. That is soft bigotry and I don't need any lecturing on THAT subject. The rest of them were just as specifically targeted and just as dead at the finish. Don't play games with specific and general murder. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 'bout time. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Who cares if the bunker busters don,t go deep enough? As long as they block the entrance AND THE EXIT I'd be satisfied. A little followup at surprise intervals would preserve the wanted status. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Not enough for "MM" unless he has agreed to and follows through on burning "SR". Chain saws to increase the bleeding and "speed up" the production line. Absolutely sickening. May he rot. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Stuart, Qom is a "real wolf" as you say, it isn,t a gradual development and if they they are foolish enough to "threaten to use" it, I'd act accordingly. Their best excuse "after the fact" could be "well, we TOLD you we would use the bomb on you! Why didn't you just listen to us?" This could be from the Iranians who would prefer to see peace prevail. { and there are many } Why not take them at their word? Their OWN word. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Notice the Papal remarks included "other innocents". Could he also be held to the "Jews only" standard required by so many on this forum? There was not a large group killing in Europe that didn't include Cathlics. What was it 5 thousand Polish Priests? Let the anti-Christian bigots take a rest on this one. This Pope will get the opportunity to help Jewry in the future to a larger extent than I care to think abouit and he will rise to do the right thing. A little respect in advance would be appropriate. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 More details needed. Not enough information included to comment beyond the sadness this death will cause someone. Who knows what happened? It is however, enough to trigger the usual un-informed and hollow responses we always have to wade through. Getting just a little bit tedious I'd say. Prolific but tiring. { Like me. ] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The Turks have quietly done much for Israel in the past. They have been a silent allie but will be farther from the Jewish camp as they lose their grip on secularity and drift toward Islamic influence in their government. { Islamic "extremism" , I should say }. Lament the memory of Attaturk and sympthize with the present day Kurds. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Wyman, if the Litvaks can,t be convinced it must be built, outside support will be limited. Yours is a gallant and much appreciated effort [by me anyway] but could your success be an uphill battle because you are not a Jew? I'm sure I read that somewhere and what a great shame it is if true. And what a giant apology I owe you if you ARE indeed a Jew! I do apologize in advance if I'm mistaken. If I,m correct then you are owed and apology and financial support to complete your project by a lot of people who havn't helped you. I however wonder if the library materials wouldn,t be safer in another country in the long run. Don,t know. Lots of luck to you in any case. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Not including "everyone else" is an UN-Veiled" example of ethnocentrism. Everyone should be included with the greater emphasis being put on the Jewish victimhood. They were the main targets and probably will be again. Every Jew in the Ukraine should have been in attendance and in one ceremony. A few words for the "others" would have to be said for the historical enlightenment of the youth attending. And attending they would be if they were my children and there would be none of the arrogant ignoring of anyone else at the ceremony. That could only be a nod and tip of the hat to ignorance and bigotry that caused the whole thing to happen in the first place. Will we never learn? Why compete in an area so important to all? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Who can replace such a man? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Dulles's sister help set up the tunnel from Rudow over to Glienicke and tap into the Russian land-lines from Karlshorst to Red Army HQ's in Russia. About 1956 as I remember it. We usually knew when the Autobahn blockades would come down leading into Allied sectors of W. Berlin. I once watched a face-off of American and Russian armor and about 1 minute before the Russian commander followed his orders to back off, the American commander glanced down at his watch, flipped off IVAN and smiled. We had intercepted the Russian's orders and knew to the minute when he was to back down. Our side was all smiles when he ordered the turn around. We took pictures, Stern Magazine did likewise to memorialize the facts and we went home. The tunnel was filled in and locked up with a steel, star plate door by the time I arrived. It was out in the warehouse about a hundred feet from the ops building. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I don't know but I hope it is soon and a joint operation by combined forces. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Cheryl, apologize immeadiately to the monkey pop[ulation of the world who are sorely offended by your insensitive comment You even make sand sound like a bad thing. Your free vacation to Palm Desert has been withdrawn [ although Desert Hot Springs would still welcome you .]. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Another Jew hater. Citgo gas, anyone ? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Ela, an interesting point that will not receive much consideration I'm afraid. Credit to you for your prowess and attempt to require a precise treatment of detail. Policies and politics are based on detail [ among other things ] and should have good facts to work from. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The "midwestern citizens of America clinging to their religion and guns " are certainly NOT the problem we have to contend with. Don,t be fooish enough to buy into the "Iran won't have nuclear weapons until around 2013" lie that has been circulated. The danger is in the present tense and needs to be handled expeditiously. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 SECRET nuclear weapons development facility? It is hardly a secret in that I'VE been harping on it and my suggestion to destroy it and it's known, sister site in North Korea for months. John Bolton recently has been saying primarily the same thing publicly for the past three or four days but has generally been saying the same thing. The development of domestic, American terrorism by Islamist extremists has gone un-noticed generally until the last few days due to the complicit silence and lack of willingness to denounce by un-involved fellow practitioners of the faith. Note the blurring of the involvement of foreign born terrorists and homegrown varieties of same and the incorporating of Black, American nationalists into the movement and note the attempts of the liberal-left in America to try to define the white conservative groups as terrorists. The white groups are antithetical to the Islamist groups and tend to counter non-traditional groups and anti-establishment terrorism. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Goldbarg? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Try to spend every dime you have by the time you kick. Just make sure you don,t have too much life left at the end of the money. Die broke and see how often those brats and grandbrats visit you in the care facility. That's why you see so many sitting in the corner staring at the walls. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 This is a superb discovery. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And Goldbarg, I'd be surprized if the NSA defections were a "new" one on you. But you've got me talking. What's your interest, as if I can't guess? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 In 1961 or '62, two NSA employees left their employer, The National Security Agency and headed for the Soviet Union. Their working titles [ both of them ] were "code breakers ". That was a loose, kind of umbrella term that covered anyone involved in cryptographic development, deciphering, equipment development and research. Most who were tagged with that term actually did something other than "break codes." But the two I mentioned did exactly that. When they left, they took first hand, inside knowledge of our electronic intelligence capability. Theirs was a subsection of sigint known as "comint." That is communications intelligence as opposed to Elint which is intercept, collection, and analysis of every non-communications radio emission out there from radar signals to back-feed into the ground from enemy teletype equipment, to clandestine homing beacons to spurious signals from research and development sites in major engineering schools at universities all over the Soviet Union. [ the best being in E Berlin ] These two, previously mentioned, had a close social relationship and like most aspiring Reds, going back to the Lincoln Brigades just assumed that in a workers paradise like Russia, there would be a free-wheeling acceptance of their lifestyle where bigotry and prejudice and homophobia would only be a distant memory left behind in the good old USA. WRONG! Russia de-briefed them and through their asses into the Red Army. Both were assigned far apart and both became raging alcoholics. The one I knew most about was a mess steward sort of warrant officer in E Berlin while I was In W Berlin. Neither ever got near an intelligence job again. Both died of liver trouble. Vodka will do that, I guess. What was I doing on "my" side of the wall, Stuart? None of your business. I havn't revealed anything that was forbidden in my debriefing and I will tell you I was assigned to the 78TH US Army Security Agency Special Operations Unit and had a TS Crypto Cat 3 Final clearance and that got me anything from the "rotors" to the top floor of the IG Farben Building and Nathan Goodpastor's ear to other places that will go unmentioned. The two mentioned were at Ft. Meade, studied Russian at Rutgers. Want more? Find it. You've always been curious about my eclectic experience Goldbarg now would you like to hear a little about the Pueblo while we're at it? I won't waste my time arguing with some enlisted re-tread on details. I got my passport at the Berlin Brigade Military Mission and "traveled" as a civilian after enlistment. ; in Germany and NOWHERE else! ] Those were the days. Too bad Lloyd Bucher is gone. He could tell you about NK and the Chinese Navy and their treatment of prisoners. But I wax reminiscent. Enough. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Cheryl, it would seem like most of my fellow "toilet mouths" are off duty. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 He had a hand in the Carter era hostage crisis and his demise is long overdue. If he cuts off an American hand and let's it go public, he will see Americans pull together like never before. Many Iranians will get their chance at martyrdom and many will just perish uselessly. He is a greater enemy to Iran than anyone in the world. Somebody has to takr care of him, one way or another. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Spain. An interesting country. It HAD a "golden age" but then.......... 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 If NY cabbies can refuse dogs and alcohol in their cabs on a religious basis, Perecowicz and anybody else should be able to excercise his or her preferences too. [ including crosses, stars, and taco chips with holy images. ] OK, so I know it's two different international entities. Don't waste your time informing me. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Alex, those who stall the investigation don,t do it for fear of it being revealed that it "did not happen." It HAPPENED and we all know it happened. They [ the stallers ] would rather that no "exaggerations" be uncovered. Too many victims are being left out of the story. But excesses translate to a free flow of donations to many competing and independant groups who want money. "Never again" is not guaranteed. It has happened many times before and could happen again. No amount of money can prevent it and all the memorials in the world are not the answer. A bandage maybe or an immunity boost but not a permanent cure. Humans are flawed and not above killing or making a career for family and friends by feeding off the generousity of well wishers and sympathizers. We need to find something that cures the character flaw, not speeches, edifices and wailing. Just listen to them on this site. Full of wisdom and scholarly advice but lacking in enough guts [ usually ] to even sign their real name. We've a long way to go. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 While my spelling and other literary talents are weak, I can usually spot a fascist who just parrots the party line. That would be you. With the lockstop, un-thinking type of patriotism you espouse, I can see why many consider themselves citizens of the "world" and disdain the crowd you hang with. You are nothing more than scale on the body-politic and debridement is in order. And just one other thing, go and phuque yourself or get sveral other shopkeepers and proffessional parasites to help you complete the act. [ well....I.d say we,re just about hitting bottom now. But you know me, just going with the flow. ] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 All the Liberty proves is that Israel, like it so often accuses others, is capable of mass murder for it's own benefit. It's sneering at it's victims and it's refusal to admit guilt puts it right in the same category as those who it and who it hates. Now just do some honest research and take a "sober" look at the results. Talk to those who were there. Perusing official reports on either side will alert you to the lies. If Eric Holder can bring out the truth on this, I'll be a Democrat the rest of my life and vote like a believer. "Flagless" ship my ass. Treacherous faction in Israel and gutless faction in America. And I'll say it. "It was done with planes and guns we GAVE them." 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And nobody but NOBODY was eavesdropping on OUR secure encryption systems at that time. Even after the two DEMOCRAT spies had defected from NSA and headed for the Soviet Union, we still had secure communications in the comm-center [which were SEPARATE and DISTINCT from the ship's command and crew]. { I refer to Martin and Mitchel, the snakes ] . 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 You F....'ing slimeball Democrats, this was YOUR party, YOUR man and YOUR doing! Experience? Just WHAT was your experience? THIS I'd like to hear! You paint with too broad of a brush blowhard and it's catching up with you. Just like the race card, always there ready to rescue you from uncomfortabe facts. In your case the NAZI card. Now pull it out and use it!!!! You'll have plenty of help from the perrenial carrion eating, left-wing, fascist fellow travelers who haunt this forum. Have at it bitches. Just talk to the survivors, they're listed and willing to counter the "it was overcast and we couldn't see" lie that you will SWALLOW so willingly. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 TD and TR, you have it right. The Libert survivors association can still provide crewmen who were lounging on deck and waved at the low-flying fighters who saw the American flag on the ship. Talk to the surving Israeli pilot who "REFUSED" to attack the Liberty. No you God-Damned silencers and muzzlers have prevailed on this one. The NSA had linguists listening and recorders spinning with tactical voice intercepts of Jewish bulldozers burying slaughtered, unarmed POWs in the "mission room" on the ship. Coverup of evidence pure and simple! And not to mention the insulting, paltry, cash settlement Israel coughed up to the injured. I calls them as I sees them. And before he died, I spoke to Admiral McGonigal, who was on the wheel for hours and hours begging for help to no avail while LBJ was screaming "I don't care if they SINK the damned ship, I don,t embarrass my friends!! The guilt-ridden bastard never got over it and neither will some of us! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Helmsley, "Taxes are for the LITTLE people." 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Yeah Cheryl, you'll be baking cookies for the IDF and missing your chance to bake pita for Hamas. Darn! How could you? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Cash only or can I write a check? Parking validated? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 JQ what would you like to do about the problem of the so-called "moderate" Muslims who sit back and refuse to denounce their death-dealing friends and relatives and fellow Mosque go-ers? Give them all twenty thousand bucks like we did before IF we win the next one? Denounce or depart, that should be their choice. Freedom of speech and freedom of religion halts when it approaches me and mine and the generous but gullible host country with vocal or implied threats. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 "Walking On Israel"? Add Poland and the Czechs to the list. They are closer to the problem than we are and the concensus is, "Chamberlain all over again." 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Apparently not. How exactly do the Republicans control North Korea? I never heard of a Neo-con who could speak Korean or stand to eat more than a thimble full of kimchi or even half of a puppy sandwich. I guess I'm just too dumb to see the picture. Maybe some wise person could "set me straight." I sure hope so. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I used to hear Rabbi Boteach on KFI in LA when he was a guest on Rabbi Mintz's show. He talks too fast for me. About a 6 on the :Arwil" rantograph. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Now THAT was a rant for you rant detectors out there. Nearly sarcasmrein too. I'd say about a 3.5 on the international "cantankeriety scale" of 1 through 10. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Sounds like an "Armageddonicalisches " deluge that will leave survivors with pocketsfull of smelt, seaweed hanging from their ears, chips imbedded in their crania, 666 engraved or tatooed on their heads and little snapping beasts painted on their hands so that Walmart clerks can cancell their charge cards and deprive them from buying food. All this from global warming and a long planned takeover of the world by........You guessed it. REPUBLICANS! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 News flash to ya'll, sexual abuse of children takes place in EVERY religion, in EVERY socio-economic strata, in EVERY country and ALWAYS has! It's more prevalent in the "upper middle-classes" and the lower social classes. The lower classes have more crowded sleeping arrangements and sometimes less supervision and the upper classes have better connections with proffessional staff in the community and more money to defend. Look for it Alabama and look for it in Brooklyn and I know you get my drift. Abuse is abuse no matter where you find it. Statistics will back me up on this. The religious lobby is a hard one to deal with once they mobilize. Remember all the custody problems in Arizona-Utah? Remember the "family training" and child swapping that went on? Business as usual now but more covert. Arranged marriages in New York? Similar. Old men, young women, merged money and power and little redress for the victims and little sympathy in the post divorce asset split. {Whose money is it when it's held jointly, sequestered and hidden in public assistance cases? } Airing dirty laundry? It wasn't me who made the PEDOPHILE accusation. Do we have freedom of speech on here? Now we'll see! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Embarrassing. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Soldiers, civilians and animals die in war, unfortunately. It is a different matter to hunt farm animals in the desert and kill them independantly and gtatuitously for entertainment separate from combat. You are not a libtard but a dyslexic 'tard for misinterpreting what I wrote. We had a wealthy, bored punk try for the presidency who entertained himself from a swiftboat by shooting livestock with a heavy machinegun. I questioned eye-witnesses on the incidents. I value livestock over enemy combatants in combat. Clear enough for you, black-tongue? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Pedophile prophet? I don't the Republicans helping to open any pediatric whorehouses. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Susskind=Tamar 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 One day you want a dialogue and the next day you want to "kill all the filthy dogs." Make up your mind. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And you're correct, Will. This site has been infected by about three previous "pissers" and now it is in danger of becoming a site of "pissery" primarily for about a half dozen chronic pissers. Who should go Will, me or you? Let the peanut gallery decide. Vote early and vote often. Now there's a Democrat mantra you should be able to relate to! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Funny thing Will, I don't FEEL like I've been "set straight" by Weisbard or you. And YOU are calling ME cantankerous. Now I'll bet a lot of people on here find that real entertaining. The difference between you and me Will, is that I "calls them as I sees them." I don't check first to see if they are Gentile, Orthodox, Reformed or whatever. You have a few subjects that are off limits apparently and you don't like it when others don't agree with you. It will take more than you. Wisebard, and your Democrat nemesis who for all the insults you,ve pile on each other seem to get back together frequently. What is the common denominator between you two? Could it be, let's see...............501c3? If it is, make plans because there's trouble ahead for "funding." I,ve said it before, several well thought reasons for me "bail" this site from a few well-balanced posters and I would be gone . That wack theory that Republicans are antisemitic in general makes me wonder if I need this. Apparently JTA hasn't felt the neccessity. Shall we hold a referndum? A vote of confidence? Let's see who should go between you and me, Will. If I get the short straw I damn sure won't be back with a phony name. No voting by mental defectives, either. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Could my comments on spitting be what pissed you off? Or was it something earlier? Acorn? Hunting Pal. farm animals with F-16s? C'mon now, let it out. Anal retention isn't good for you. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 At this point in the game, Republican or Democrat, I'm not hooking up with either. Looting the national treasury, or opening pediatric whorehouses, which is worse? C'mon now, take the bait! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Dr, Heidenreicherscheisser, where are you when we need you? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 There are plenty of laws on the books. Would the "excommunication" you're talking about be the real permanent thing that Benedict Spinoza {OK, so his real name was "Baruch" Spinoza } got for failing to shut up and not offend the Dutch as in being "read out" or just a little letter dis-inviting one from holiday appearances? I prefer the permanent "kick their asses out" formula! I can name a few others who have been on the front pages lately too. I'll bet you can come up with a few also. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Susskind=Tamar. Not that it's a bit important. It is just that inimitable, nasty style that gives it away. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Backie, can't you just..................? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Seventh Day Adventist? So WAS David Quoresh. So how's things over there in Loma Linda? Still got that ordnance outlawing barbeque? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Susskind=Tamar. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Specific accusations would be a help. The flippant "boys and girls" thing just begs the the question : "who is he talking about"? If you don't like being with boys and girls, maybe you should look for a sandbox where the kids are closer to your maturity level. Ya think? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Will, maybe some Republican Jew would want you removed for that blanket comment of yours to the effect: They must be antisemitic because they are Republicans." Do you think that should be allowed? I was a Republican [ and indeed a Socialist! ] at one point in my life and I wasn't antisemitic then or now. Calling someone antisemitic is just an inch from labeling them a Nazi and you know it. You do use your real name however and I respect you for having guts for that even if we disagree on a few things. I probably would supporting you in your dreamed of pogrom against our "real" enemies quicker than I'd assist you in a shutdown. Oh, well....... 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Just minimize civilian casualties and DO it! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 A few YEARS? It only took 4 years the first time around for the original research, development, construction and deployment-detonation! Don't you think this bunch has skipped a few steps, cheated a little, bought some research and expedited a little? Jesus but you must think they are all going to work on camels! They have the well-educated 36,ooo members o.t.t. to who may be being forced to help. What good does it do to deny the facts? It gives them stall-time that's all. If you reside in the taget zone, it's more your problem than mine for sure. I just don't get it and Amb. John Bolton was in total agreement last night with what I've been saying for months on this forum. A deliverable nuclear weapon is just around the corner. Expect Israel to make a move any day. Got spies? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Iran is not crumbling. It is experiencing some vocal opposition. No armed resistance [ no arms } It is in somewhat of a bind due to the cell phone camera and the internet that would broadcast worldwide the gunning down of these demonstrators. The fascist-religionists have cameras too and they are photographing and archiving and profiling these people who are standing up for democracy. They will be dealt with later, unfortunately when no one is watching. We and the Europeans should be supporting the resistance in every way possible. Crumbling , no but develpping cracks, yes. It could go either way. If we won't help Israel, Poland and the Czech Republic it's doubtful if we'll do much with Iran. Jews get the rapp for self-hatred like they are the only ones. We are engaging in a little of it right now and the peanut-headed cracker personifies white self-hatred. Guilt and self-hatred. Worse than cancer and harder to treat. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The real power on earth but not the supreme power. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Of course. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The silent sitters in Beverly Hills are the grandchildren of silent sitters who remained mostly silent when Ben Hecht was trying to raise funds for the Irgun in the 40's in Bev Hills. Things aren't that much different now are they? I wonder if Livni's parents knew Mr. Hecht? Or Abrasha Stavsky? Or the Altalena? How about you Schwartzie? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 "not' to hide behind. See? Carelessness. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 You lost me somewhere in all that. Never again, you hope! It is happening right now in several countries and it's just too painful or inconvenient to admit it. I don't like closed forums. Especially when chicken sh... individuals use cute, psuedonyms and are afraid to state their opinions publicly. You could be any one of a dozen or so people who change names and return with a phony style and deliberate misspellings. " Nobody could mistake bigoted for bogoted or perverted for perveted, I hope. And if you actually made these words in error, I can't be bothered. My mistakes are usually carelessness or ignorance but to hide behind. You are a bookburner and I invited you once before to not trouble yourself with my comments. But knock yourself out! You can say whatever you want until a bunch of thin-skinned lefties gang up on you and report you out of existance. It can happen. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And I can't type. So? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The reason no one seems to want to address the "harvesting" thing is that there are more out here who want the "facts". I personally have doubt about the whole thing but you won't find my signature on the back of my driver's licence naming me a donor. I want to live or die on something more than whether a rich Saudi whose kidneys have exploded from too much goat fat to "buy" mine for a donated wing on the hospital. Think it doesn't happen? Ypu're a fool! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Banning I just can't buy into. There are individuals who would silence ALL of us individually as the one they hate the most and there are individuals who would silence the whole damn forum once and for all. Those are book burners and silencers. Nazis and I care if you think the word is "owned" or not. And what about this recent comment "you are what you read"? I guess that makes us all shi... because there is plenty of it on kere and we have all read it. I have read "Mein kKampf" and that does not make me Hitler. I have heard enough about the "Protocalls" that I don't think I'd spend a quarter to buy a copy. If I found a copy lying in a fairly sanitary trash pile, I'd take it home and read it. Iron Felix would not be my favorite writer but I'd read his crap. What in the Hell is with this ego trip that causes people to silence others? Mussa has been insulting often but there are plenty of others around here who just do it more carefully and sparingly to escape the label. You're no better. Fox News is reporting a central data base [in addition to ADL ] that archives this type of forum. Does that bother you at all? Just because you're gassing up the trucks everyday and selling the tires that go on them does NOT mean one won't pull up in front of your house some evening and haul your ass away. It's happened before and my guess is, it could happen again. And if you hate FOX network, I hope you're smart enough to consider the report instead of dismissing them as "Republican fascists! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Israel could probably have some trouble ahead. We expect that. But even in spite of the resident fifth column and their fellow travelers abroad, Israel will be here. Who knows how the cards will be dealt but G-d set up the game and has planned the outcome and the final score. Take heart or hate yourself, the choice is yours. Give your children enough info so they can decide for themselves. Not much to ask is it? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Golda, [ if you're listening ] that,s my kind of logic. I wish you were around here now. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Now that the rest of you have found out a little bit about ACORN you must admit [ this time ] that my "slight" was prophetic. And as of today, you ain't heard nothing yet. Wait for FOX News to rip Rafke a new one. And yes, ACORN denies blue-collar white assistance in favor of minorities and then busts their asses to put them in working class , white-owned repo'd homes! And some of those ACORN employees don't know the meaning of work as indicated by the size of their fat butts dragging in to work at all hours of the day! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Can't come up with a response for that one. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 This "harvesting" thing is the new blood libel and I think it's here to stay. Sad to say. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Chinese soldiers have been harvesting kidneys for years. Just match the tissue type of some poor soldier from the data bank, arrest him, take him out behind the building and do it. I wish I could remember the source from ten or so years ago and cite. Time or Newsweek, I think. Morgue attendants at an "Un-named" County hospital in California were removing cornea and thyroids in 1968 and were fired. Few extra bucks for someone who wasn't earning a lot. It may have been Dr. Thomas Noguchi who put a stop to it, as I remember. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Jews For Jesus? How about burqa-bedeked maidens manning [excuse me! WOMANNING?] the phones at the front desk of Hadassah? J's FOR J are the least of worries. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 This is a Jewish story because Israel is being manuevered into attacking Iran and will therefore bear the resulting consequences. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Indicted isn't guilty. Let's wait. But how embarrassing. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 THREE men with a "knife" [ as you report ] or three men with "three KNIVES" ? Was this the Palestinian version of the Three Stooges or a commando-infiltration team or three drunks? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Thomas, my bunch left portugal [ or Spain ] long enough ago that they left Brazil in 1654 and got side-tracked in New Amsterdam for a short time before going on to Virginia for a non-observant period that reaches to the present. Prominent in the Spanish and Portuguese Synagogue and the Revolutionary War while they were at it. The adjustment? I'm not sure they handled that well. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Investing in "the revival of Jewish life in the former Soviet Union" is an investment unlikely to pay the dividends you hope for, Valerie. I'm sorry for the people who are left there and it is a monumental task for anyone to "move" even in their own neighborhood, much less to an unfamiliar country and perhaps a hostile reception. Doubly so for the aged or infirmed or one with no family awaiting them. I know all that. I appreciate your work. Ort, in my opinion, raises false hope for a better standard of living. But it is only temporary and what trade or skill can ORT teach that will protect against the next pogrom that is coming as surely as the sun will set this evening? ORT has a lot of people on salary whose "work" would be an expensive travel adventure for Thomas Roberts or me. I'll say it again, spend the money on luggage, hold their hand and walk them out if that's what it takes. Sorry. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The difference between "Brooklyn {Queens? } and Mecca last I heard is a taxi to the airport, and a ticket on EL AL in first class. Not much difference. You sound a little like a public defender helping a client with an O.R. application. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 True, he is not an inmate. Is he under house arrest? I should not have said "other inmates." But the REAL question is: "IS he a flight risk?" Whether technically an inmate, an accused under house-arrest, or a "person of great interest" being watched pending a DA and cops putting a case together, the court is also obligated to protect the public in a reasonable and prudent manner with the people's rights taken into consideration as well. I don't mean to " conflate or confuse" the issue [oh Hell no, anything but that!] but tell me what it is when a simple, legal document is drawn up [ like a will I just had done ] and the parties concerned can't tell up from down after reading it. That is not legal precision, that is creating a need for legal consultation. A dis-service to the client in my opinion. I hope YOU "do better" in your practise and instruct your students to not unneccessarily "confuse and conflate." And re your gracious "thank you" for my compliments, "yer welcome, prof!" 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And a qustion. HOW would we say no to the other inmates who have the wherewithall to pay for security, transportation, and other costs who need to pray at a particular place? Mecca, for instance and the obligatory "one trip" in a lifetime to march around the holy stone seven times. A "stopover" to visit relatives in Medina or some other city could extend to a lifetime. There is no easy answer as you say. NO BAIL! would probably be my answer. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Is it the case that Jews are disproportionately denied bail because of a thought that Jews are more likely to flee to Israel than Turks to Turkey, Mexicans to Mexico etc? Anyone of great wealth and who has shown a propensity for sequestering it, has a long-standing pattern of visiting where extradition would likely prove to be difficult, should be denied bail with due consideration of the charges and ALL other things relavent. Traffic warrants? Bail! Disturbing the peace? Bail! Murder? PROBABLY not. Swindling all those many people of all that money [even though still only allegations and not proven] and all that indication of wealth transferred abroad? NO BAIL! I'm very much impressed with Yeshiva University. The others cited? No bail! I too am concerned about the future of Israel. Thanks very much for taking the time to respond in a kind and sincere manner. You have the advantage of a superb education and I, being your inferior, can only offer up satire, irony, insult and a weak attempt at humor. Wisconsin? Well....Golda left. Israel was a little different then. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Our first ammendment doen't protect this type of speech. This is "inciting violence" in anyone's book. It is an "insult to justice" to call it an insult and prosecute it as such. "Gassing" as meant in this context KILLS people, it does not "insult" them. This in the country that puts it's deaf daughters in show windows and displays them to potential customers for prostitution! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Message to Hungary: "spend your time and resources on the healthy, young, up-and-coming" Nazis you have a growing abundance of. By taunting a 95 year old you may be appeasing the salaried "hunters" and their mentoring NGOs but you are ignoring the "real problem" and letting it get out of hand. [which just may be what you want ]. Don't try to impress us by fighting a few embers in the fireplace when the rest of the house is a flaming inferno! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 On Condition, Rabbi Schneersohn respected ALL human beings and indeed all living things. Don't know what's going on now. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 So Peter, I assume we are in agreement. Veritas? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Islam, if the Quiran accurately represents it, is not a "moderate" religion. It is "extreme" if practised faithfully. If one practises it faithfully, one is "immoderate" or extreme. If one practises it "moderately" the others are obliged to kill that one much like they are obliged to kill "all others who refuse to embrace Islam through conversion. If one leaves the faith, the faithful are once again, obliged to kill that one too. Do YOU know anyone who is moderate or fallen away? Don't stand too near at the bus stop or in crowds. And just one more thing. If you are an American citizen and accept a wad of cash to help someone with an immigration problem and have a girl child, not to worry [ too much ]. But if you have a boy and are fool enough to enter an Islamic country on vacation, you MAY come back but NOT THE BOY!!! He's staying! Be advised! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Rabbi Miller should have whispered the response "don't worry. We won't forget you. Be ready. We will get you out of here." Not everyone could have made it out., of course. The money should go to plane tickets now and not ORT. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 If the chant wasn't meant to offend Jews "intentionally," I guess it was meant to offend them accidentally. Or maybe it was trying to offend Hamas. Or maybe the chant is supposed to offend I G Farben. Or Chemical Ali! Give me a F.....'in break! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Those who see themselves as "global citizens" as opposed to "American Jews" are in for a surprise when they get out there and compare the rest of the globe's treatment of them in comparison to that of America. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Rubie and Bernie will be out selling Shashlick from a pushcart soon. Of course it will be towed by a Rolls and the beef will be Glatt Kosher. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 You know the old Turkish saying TD, "money talks and bull---t well......just stays locked up. We have the best justice system money can buy. The more money you got, the more justice you get. Harvard-Yale graduates please "wisely" respond. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Congratulations, David. You realize, of course, I didn't make a blanket statement including "everyone." You say "many men in prison are not sincere in their religious affiliation" so we are in some agreement. Please respond to my comment that parole boards are more likely to release the "devout" a little early. I sometimes forget my prayers but when I pray, you are included in them. I know the Rabbi at Chuckwalla Prison and would be happy to refer you if it would be a help. He's really a standup guy. I would like to hear your feelings on my opinion that the Aryan Brotherhood started in the joint as a self-defense organization to combat black inmate and black staff violence towards whites. You undoubtedly would have first hand observations to share. Luck, dude. Hope you live long and acquire many ducats. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one sickened by this. I have been offered money to give up the Julius and Ethel grave sites. There ain,t enough money. I would add public shunning and absolute denial of entrance to any synagogue until this matter is straightened out between both sides by ALL concerned. No individual settlements to cash hungry survivors. Must be based on something other than money. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Cheryl, BD remains a mystery to me. A mystery I don't have time to figure out. You for one, and I hope everyone here is against murder of anyone anywhere. There are many cases of disgusting murder of Christians in Muslim communities. My advice for them is the same advice I boringly dish out to Jews in the Ukraine and several other dangerous places. Get out while you can. You are hopelessly outnumbered and can only HOPE for justice and police protection. You may get it but the odds just aren't for you. My advice for Christians living in those places found to be dangerous once again; leave. As for Christians living in Israel? same. Take a brick or a rock or a handful of sand from every place holy to you and head for a country where you won't have to put up with being spit on. Rebuild your shrines with a small amount of original material and do the best you can. And let me add for the benefit of the lock-step fanatics of politics and ethnocentered religion, THE SPITTING DOES HAPPEN! { I said "FANATIC" now don't get yourself riled up unless it applies to YOU. Then feel free to get auto-riled } 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Not me. No judge am I. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Will, you're getting a little careless when you say "it's Republican, so of course it's anti-semitic." I stick up for your right to say it but this time I can't let it go without bringing it to your attention. After al, Mu Mu is going to put us in the same care home and we don't want to go in with any smouldering differences. Feel free to respond, please. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Shortly after World War Two I can personally remember every kid in my neighborhood was collecting NAZI belt buckles, bayonets, flags, Mausers, buttons and every type of war trophy imaginable along with stuff sloughed off by surrendering 'Tojoites." I can assure you the kids collecting this junk were NOT aspiring Nazis. Just the opposite. It was actually more like gloating over the personal-lost property of a vanquished enemy. This stuff was brought back by veterans [many of whom were mangled by this enemy } and collected and given away and sold in the same spirit. None aspired to march and fight for Hitler or Hirohito and might just kick your ass if you hinted at that possibility. How things have changed. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Police presence? Presence should be directly proportionate to NEED. More crime, More presence. But, the problem is, when police presence is increased,, the whiney, ccommie, rabble-rousing community organizers will scream "Ah ha! Police brutality! Look at all these cops around here! The MAN is trying to keep us down! [ As in down on the plantation ] 2 troo, tewbie troo! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Ibcoming Russian-Jews tend to be "shrimp-eaters" if you know what I mean. They are experts at finding the welfare office, getting soft-tissue damaged in staged car colisions, and submitting damage claims with supportive evidence from Russian doctors. Don't believe me? Go to LA and research it yourself. They are treated like sacred cows there and nobody wants to to risk the "bigot" label and say anything. [ And damn but there is a lot of that going on now! ] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 "separate issue" not " deparate issu." There goes my style and credibility again. Shucks! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I don't usually like to support the concept of "draft dodging." In the case of the "draft exempt spitters," it just may be a good thing. Would you want a "spitter" ] or indeed, several of them ] armed with M-16's entering an enemy village, rounding up a bunch of men and boys and transporting them a long distance for incarceration? They would perhaps be expected to be abused wouldn't they? Shot? Kicked? Drowned in spittle? Now let's see if you can stick to the facts when you come after me on this! Keep the spitters home to draw welfare and study while others support them. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 My experience has been that Christians don't "face spit." I have truly never seen anyone do it or be a victim of it. The citations given would indicate that it happens. Why get pissed off or go ballistic when the problem is brought up? Forget the REASON it is being brought up or handle that as a deparate issu. But has face-spitting become a quasi-accepted form of behavior in specific areas on a limited basis? Sure sounds like it. I'll tell you one thing, if we meet, don't make the mistake of seeing if I'll tolerate it! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And WHO raises the issue and suggests a remedy more often than me? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I said I was "sorry" in my original comment. I only stereotype the "general age group" and was careful to leave the "individual" SEPARATE from the utterances. I did not know him, have not served in the IAF and any expressions of feeling more than "sorry" would not be genuine and be for the benefit of the readers present. I doubt if his family follows this blog. Get your emotions under control and act like an adult. If I seem to 'ramble" that is just tough shit for you. Don't read my comments if you don't like them. My comments are not made with any attempt to conform to your requirements regarding style or content or "taste." 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Will, I don't "deny" anyone his relationship with G-d nor do I "determine" the genuineness of it. I will question it however as a possible ruse for release and comment accordingly. I have to hurry off now, I'm expecting a call from "Moo Moo." 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Mussa, it's a miracle what a little Aricept can do for an old man with Alsheimers. They released me last week. But the REAL miracle drug is this stuff called Viagra. While I was checking out, my gerontologist told me to go home, take two tablets, wait thirty minutes, call Mussa, bend him over a camel seat, tell him to relax and well.......you know the rest. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And to be perfectly candid, while I know absolutely NOTHING about his service record and don't know if he ever "bombed" a living or practise target, I DON'T like the concept of bombing in general in any case unless it's rail lines leading to death camps or Iranian or NK reactor facilities. I also DETEST tactical, fighter aircraft searching the countryside and strafing neighborhood goats and draught animals. Now I can TELL you of one Israeli pilot who brags about doing that! Once again, absolutely no knowledge of the deceased having ever done anything like this! Don't start with the mis-quoting now. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 You handle the condolences. I know the Israeli military pilots don't always have a college degree. That isn't needed to be a skilled pilot anyway. It's maturity and judgment that concerns me. I also know that it was until recently a "cool thing" to land un-announced on one of many Arab airfield strips, roll back the canopy, throw a sack of trash out of the plane on the runway and then make a quick ascent to return to laughter and high-fives from fellow pilots who "dared" it be done. None of this applies in any way, shape or whatever to the deceased. I know nothing of his character or flight record. I do know a few 20 year olds, know how insurance rates vary with age in cars AND aircraft, have been a student pilot myself, am aware of the cost of that plane, some crash statistics related to age and still stand by my original opinion. Too young is too young and it has nothing to do with race, religion, ethnicity, nationality or how famous one's parents or siblings are. And standing in front of a moving bulldozer just might be an example of "youthfully poor judgment" now that you brought it up! That was a case of "hotdogging" we actually have a few facts to rely on. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Thanks to my friend Morris Beschloss for helping to found the organization. { Morrie, how's the weather out there? Tell Gary I said hello. } 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 When I tell a degrading, gender-offensive joke I want the opportunity to do it without being berated or beaten by the victim. That's fair isn't it? A "guys only" section provides that. Can you really "know" whether I'm joking or not? Quickly now eunuchs, stand up and protest! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 If classes were cancelled for every major holiday for every religion on campus, how many days of class could there be? Now if I could just get the Los Angeles County Court system to see this line of reasoning, I would feel more accomplished. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And good luck to all those struggling with the tendency to be priggish and tedious. I see improvement. I'll work on my spelling and comprehension. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The "lack" of comment sickens me. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 It would be easier to keep them out rather than follow them around. Same goes for a few others. But watch them and evesdrop on them we must if they're here. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 A gun collector of any general variety would likely get the same treatment. How sad it is that reason is falling by the wayside. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The best thing that can be done for any Jew in the Ukraine or Moldova is to give him a steamer trunk, help him pack, put the dog on a leash, load all into a van and head for the airport. { I wouldn't even leave a pet behind }. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The university environment must become a place where there is freedom of expression before peace, truth, and justice etc. can be arrived at. The fear of recriminations on the part of students and faculty and the specter of "political correctness" looms much like some individuals attempt to sell on this forum. Beware of the book burners, the silencers and the muzzlers. They are here. Very approriate Cheryl. Succinct and accurate as usual. Thanks. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And while we're at it Michael Jackson anonymously presented a new, Dodge van completely outfitted with paraplegic controls, and the rest of the needed custom equipment to a California Highway Patrolman who lost both legs to an errant driver during a traffic stop near Thousand Palms where he was assigned. I never heard anything about that except in local, desert media. And the relevance to the JTA article here? None, I guess. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Sammy Davis had it right. There is a seat with his name inscribed on it in the Temple in Palm Springs. It is common knowledge that friend Frank wore a Mezzuza given by a babysitter when a child, every day for the rest of his life. Peter and Joey I never heard much about in this respect. They were very generous in helping with the building fund. Frank's mother was a "one woman army" in support of the Catholic church in next door Cathedral City. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 David, your conclusions are sound and your logic indeed extends to every little, paint-spray can weilding little bastard in the world. "If you can't build, graffitti what others build." Huns, Vandals and uncivilized heathen. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Correct.. But the parole board see "devoutness" as an excuse to release offenders a little early. It usually works. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Yes! Condemn anything you don't agree with. Then respond with a long, tedious, condescending explanation like you are a five-year old. Jewish? Well, I'll stay away from that. Jewish as in "Mendelsohn"? Perhaps. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 If these allegations prove to be true, I would ask "which is worse, desecrating Jewish graves as anti-semitism or destroying Jewish graves by Jews ' for profit?" I sincerely hope these allegations turn out to be groundless. Does anyone happen to know where Julius and Ethel are buried? I do. LA area. Big secret, huh? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 If there hasn't been enough proof amassed thus far to "prove" the Holocaust occurred, something is very wrong. Intelligent people KNOW it happened and fools will never be convinced. The claims commission needs to spend more time "working" instead of traveling around taking pictures and drawing expenses. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Guess what. It is the group {OK, the majority} that "re-vised" the doctrine and changed from traditional values who are the "renegades." Now, of course if the reasoning were so applied it would be the Conservatives and Reformed who would also, truly be "renegades" for having left Orthodoxy. SSPX and Orthodox are both closer to "true-tradition" and the writer, even if Catholic is rude if not totally out of line for referring to SSPX as renegades. I personally think the word is ill-used here, anyway. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 There's something embarrassing about this article. A lot of people find religion once they're behind bars. Varied religions. My question would be "what were they doing BEFORE they landed behind bars and more importantly what would they do with their devoutness if released?" 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And you're not the only one, Cheryl. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 ADVANCED training in an F-16 at age TWENTY? How old was he when he STARTED training? 17 or 18? Too young. But I am still sorry. Connections that got him killed. Famous father ain't what it's all about. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Surely, no one is surprised at this. It never was a matter of "if". More a matter of WHEN! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Yeah, you're right Minkin. There are plenty of other reasons to "over-react" to. Sitting on that anti-aircraft gun in Hanoi while U.S. servicemen were rotting in prison is perhaps a reason. Touting the character of that one is a very poor move. Keep that up and watch your funding from "Evangelicals" wither. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 So are they planning to get out or just live in government housing forever waiting for the axe to fall? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Bomb All weapons developement facilities in Iran and NK. Do the common citizens in both countries a favor. Do it now while it is still possible. Sick of hearing this tired, tyrade? I don't hear you opposing me? How about some support then? Nobody? Violence is no vice when your life is on the line. Or , walk on in, breathe deeply and take the consequences. It needs to be said. No apologies from now on. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 So tell us something new, Bin! Every Muslim I've ever spoken candidly with has been saying that for about the last forty or so years that I can remember. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Brag, brag, brag but "WISE" my ass! And Will, the other AHOLE respects anyone or any institution where the geld runs freely. In hopes some might come his way, of course. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 It's apparent those gourmet coffee swilling NAZI's in Washington should be required to switch to shade grown, de-caf by executive decree or be exiled to some Gulag in Alaska. Too much rittalin could be the problem. If any of these teenaged twits are fortunate enough to have an assertive father in the house, maybe he could "talk" to them. Or just give 'em a big, Marin County hug at least. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 OK, so I meant "generosity." Sorry. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And don't forget "snappin' pupchen" a little violence here and there, a little vandalism here and there and a little paes pulling here and there can be a shot in the arm for a fundraising crowd in the US that is faced with genrosity on the wane. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 SSPX may die out but it will NEVER come around to Vatican II thinking. Good for them. Someone's got some cajunitos. Not too many around here. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Maybe it's time for a little public disorder in good old Deutschland and that would provide the cops an opportunity to demonstrate how they "really" feel and where their sympathies actually are. And THAT'S why they did NOT get a permit to demonstrate. Believe me, they do not want to crack Arab heads. They have had many opportunities to do so for LEGITIMATE reasons in the past. The law has let many "no cop" neighborhoods develope in Germany and is because they are like minded in many respects. And by the way, there are some apologists around here that need to have either an acorn shoved up their ass or a tennis ball stuffed down their throat and that phrase from one few would dare to criticize on this forum. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Sorry, I meant "Grandad." 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Doug, of course those days are long gone. Nobody talks about the cadets at the Alcazar or the Harley-Davidson engine that ran the electric generator for years. The commies on the La city council even changed "alcazar Street" to "Henry Street". The facts have faded and the traditions are even disappearing. My old friend Wesley Miller wore his RED beret 'til he passed in Desert Hot Springs under the care of "Honest Lou" and supported by the ILWU. Lou, of course, goes back to Harry Bridges, Gus Hall and the rest of the bunch. The "good revolution" had long been stolen and the "good fight" was long lost before Harry and Gus hit the scene. Play the "Internationale" one more time Doug, for your Dad and Wes. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Plane tickets, hotel and meals on the donors dime. A waste of money that could be spent on bombs for military targets in Iran. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Were the passengers on the ST. Louis cowards? The fool stays and dies. The wise one retreats, regroups and puts up a defense that can't be breached. Stragglers perish. Get out while you can is the best advice. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 When you leave, you leave your pension. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 A large proportion of those on this forum give them reason to "laugh" and go to sleep fearing nothing! And despise they do. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Book burning bastards. Whose paying your salary while you do this research? Some 501c3 supported by guilt-ridden boneheads, no doubt. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 NK too! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 So what's "thinly veiled" about "Bomb Iran NOW before it's too late!? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 So Doc, it sounds like you have a problem with his presenting himself as a "qualified" historian but not his taking the opportunity to utter his views publicly. While you are a "doctor" of something { put it AFTER your name so we'll know ] you apparenty are close enough to Buchanan's life that you can enlighten us on his "devoutness." So, are you a theologian, a constitutional scholar, a Buchanan biographer, a podiatrist or a bored, self-proclaimed doctor house sitting for a wealthy, out of town vacationer? Or are you the world famous "Dr. Fernadito del Diablos-von Heidenreicherscheisser" whose is wont to stick "Doctor" in front of his moniker? Indeed, are you a Jew? A priest? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Perhaps U.S. Rep. Engel has brought the fact to a greater that Chavez is a "little puke" and is a practitioner of "anti-semitic pukery" at all times. He makes no effort to hide it. Ticket on a tour of Carracas, anyone? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Cartere would undoubtedly be on the stage if a single state were to be formed. The only question is, would Bill and H or Jimmie be closer to the honored speaker. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 This is not too unlike in the 1930's. Did they stay in the houses and cower or did they come out and FIGHT? If the answer is: "It was too dangerous and what could we do outside, we,re such gun-haters worldwide and spend fortunes disarming the public everywhere we live we didn't have any weapons," then it's too dangerous to remain there with your children. Maybe you should decide whether you'd rather be a live Jew elsewhere { ISRAEL! ] or a dead Hungarian-Jew buried where your grave will be ransacked by drunken teenagers on the weekends. It's your choice. Israel needs you and your children need to stay alive! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Another prediction coming true? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 {Desert Cahuilla} 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 So Michael, what are you going to say when archaeologists discover MORE evidence that caucasions were on the American Continent BEFORE Asians? That quick burial and refusal to let scientists continue with the examination of "Kennebeck Man" will only delay the finding of other specimen that will dampen your theories of "who was here first". I can tell you "ownership" of land amounts to who is sitting on it and who can hold it. That's all. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Will, I prefer the "two-eyed smiley face" to the "one-eyed, winking wanker" used by another on this site. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Will, hardly anyone wants to play "school" anymore. I give as an example the two who were too busy playing "doctor" when the eight killed the man the other day in front of his wife and daughter. Teaching the course in "annihilation" ? I know of about six around here including the two of us who would do our best to "instruct". Those numbers aren't too good. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The original development ,from scratch, only took from '41 to '45. With all that research done, and sold by a few spies here and there over the years and a few sales and gifts of technical knowledge, how could ANYONE think they aren't right on the verge [[wwith NK ] of workable weapons? Bomb them both NOW! If YOU don't care to survive, do it as a "present" to the decent civilians in both countries. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Bomb their military and free their young people. Do us all a favor. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 So this is the end of it, huh? Not enough guts to survive and not enough guts to comment on this tragedy either. If the eight males were female Arabs, and the two females were Jewish males, there would be eight funerals before sundown. As it is, the two fems will finish up a university education, become secular, orthodox haters and probably teach their children Rachel was the founder of modern Israel. Such a pity. But most Jews are fairly "Western" in their thinking and therefore will perish in the upcoming Islamic sweep that will leave only isolated remnants of Western civilization. To rise in the future? About as likely as the "Essenes" rising again. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Schtup? Did you say "schtup"? That's it, I'm reporting all this to the playground supervisor and you just may be staying in for recess for this! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Benjie, babeeee..... You can do better than THAT! Already questionable credibility plummets! What next, crack whores in the WH? Boy, are we all in some deep sh....or what? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And maybe for the first time in History I,m with the "Bard" on this one. And while I flippantly made my preference known for pastrami over tofu, I didn;t want to insult Cheryl Sorry. What I,m really sorry about is that while I,m aware of the cruelty of commercial slaughter [Kosher or otherwise] , I have a moral conflict with eating meat and STILL do it. I,m working on the problem but have NO problem with dairy or eggs. When I first arrived on this site, I took on the agri-bitch bunch and another bitch came out and "clued me in" on humane Kosher slaughter is and was accused also of being a covert PETA type. Well, I didn't buy the humane story then and I ain't buying it now. Now I know some priggish twit will take time off from community rabble rousing and try it again. Go ahead and try! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 A VERY, VERY, long weekend. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Bitch! Bitch! Bitch [ing] ! It's going to be a LONG weekend. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 A clue for you DTM, the Constitution was written just a "few" years PRIOR to our present day mass media. What would would the framers say about surreptitious cameras in dressing rooms and video sweeping of public gathering places? Probably not what Sotie and crew have come up with over the years. And how about emminent domain? Do you think that was a reflection of what the originators of the document had in mind? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 DTM, people in the information business and whose credibility and bottom line depends on objectivity and accuracy should "voluntarily" present all views. Too bad if their "political agenda" trumps their desire to make a profit. Yes indeed, too bad for all of us. If I'm going out for clues, I'll look for a better source if you don't mind DTM. Buchanan? Couldn't be any worse than what we got now. World Wars of the past are non-entries in comparison to the gravity of what's developing now on a daily basis. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Right or wrong he has a RIGHT to be heard without regard for content. [ except advocating violence } Be advised, this site has numerous "silencers" and aspiring book burners. On a higher level, it continues to get worse. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I guess you could say the fanatic-Islamic demolition of the Towers was sort of a "bombing for urban renewal." That should get them into all good government functions. Party on, Moshe! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Stupid move, MSNBC. Now fewer will be aware of his views! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 About 25 years ago the Moslem Brotherhood Of America owned all the vacant desert property across from the Annenberg estate in Palm Desert. Don't know why old Walter let them get ahead of him on this. Don't know the significance of it, either. Don't even know who the "Brotherhood" was. Anybody? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And one more thing. while I support your right to say it [even here ] I'm done reading it. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Hicks-Evans, where can I score some of that good sh.. you have found. I have a lot of housekeeping to do and could use the energy. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I guess I came along too early for all this. All I ever got was George Pal puppetoons and Beanie and Cecil. Black and white too. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Norway, don't let the door hit you on your ass on the way out! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 So, how come the little puke isn't visiting Bulgaria and the Ukraine? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I would like to take the opportunity at this time to request the late, great "Crapper's Hall Of Shame" be re-instituted and that my name be placed thereon as a "charter level crapper" with the express promise that I will be continually vigilant in searching out "crap-eating dogs". I also hereby promise to never submit any names of individual groups or persons as analogous to said canines. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Adam, when you got a good thing, why dilute it? You weaken the product in so doing. Nobody adds impurities to pure gold and nobody adds tofu or soy to real food. OK, well.....some do. Not me! And Mussa, like myself, you are ever aware of the funding problem. And you are correct in that and it is always appropriate to question the sources of it and how much the recipiant gets. That doesn't connect to parastalsis from my point of view and we shouldn't resort to "scat" when our logic fails. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Gheryl, at no time should the weapons development danger in Iran not be accompanied by description of NK's parallel activity. Thanks for doing that. I don't want to be alone in it. We should apply the military problem solving process to this situation. It works at Ft. Benning and it will work effectively in this case. To wit: " identify the problem, determine the causes, eliminate the causes." Beautiful in it's simplicity. If the problem is weapons development on the part of NK and Iran, caused by extremism and weapons labs, eliminate the extremism covertly and bomb the weapons facilities. The problem no longer exists. Just one paragraph covers it. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 If and when Caterpillar stops selling bulldozers to Israel. Kubota will be happy to pick up the slack. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Why don't the progressives post early THIS time. Easier to wait and then do an itemized dissection from behind cover where there is less risk. Attack the one who has guts enough to comment instead of adding something original which would expose you to the same bright light of interrogation and criticism, huh? And with a psuedonym at that! I don't have enough long time history of the organization to comment one way or the other yet. It appears to be pretty much "yes they did! No they didn't!" at this point. HRW would appear to be somewhat obsessed with self-flagellation on the surface at least. One sided. Agendized. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I don't have much sympathy left for people living in the Ukraine and places with similar histories of intolerance. If the "volunteering" numb-heads from Mt. Holyoke don't want to go to Yemen and help people pack up and move, maybe they could help in the Ukraine. And maybe they would rather organize a folk dance exchange with said bigots. ILWU would probably be all for that. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And Rocky, "prostrate" cancer I guess means cancer flat on it's back. "Prostate" cancer is the one men have, is often un-diagnosed until too late, kills more men than breast cancer kills women but has no "lobby" [by comparison, at least} , no postage stamp dedication etc. More men will die from it in the up-coming health care system as the job of "digital rectal examination" will be shifted to the "nurse and nurse practicianor." Both nurse and patient are happy to pass on this procedure and hence; the late diagnosis. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Speaking of health, would you care to compare the general health of the U.S. population when the delis were thriving and now? The health is worse now but the medicine and treatment are better . You eat your soy protein and I'll have a deli-pastrami any day. Look at the high school class pictures from 50 years ago. No whales then. Now? Children with I-Pods "walking" laps. No running now. It would kill the little beasts! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Liberal is not pejorative. Progressive is. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Will, to the point and succinct. You could get reported for "lack of tediousness" you know. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I never met a Starbuck's I didn't like. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I liked Cohen's on Anaheim Street in Long Beach. Friedman's on Long Beach Boulevard was OK. But the "old" Cantor's on Brooklyn and Soto in East Los Angeles, there was a Deli! We didn't save that one and we ain't going to save the rest of them at the rate we're going. How about "Sam's Home Of The Kosher Burrito" on first Street in downtown LA? Glasser Brother's bail bonds next door. Seen it lately? You can get lotsa burritos around there now but they AIN'T Kosher! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Why all the personal recriminations? I doubt anyone listens to them, pays even less heed and feels they are mostly annoying. Freedom of speech and thought. Enjoy it and let others do the same. There is an atmosphere developing that will provide plenty of opportunities for snitching and narking. Get in line, sign up and get get your card. {OK a NEW card if you already have one..} It will get you to the head of the line, maybe get a ticket fixed, or maybe get you some Tamiflu when supplies run low. New KGB members called this card a "shoe" meaning you could "go places" with it. Hypothesis, antithesis and synthesis. Same old story, just a "re-read." Some just never have read it yet or didn't gain much from it the first time. So sad. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Doubtless they incoming Ethiopian students have had a different educational experience and are on somewhat of a different track. Perhaps it has been a slower track. But not an inferior track in G-d's eyes and no reason to be excluded. They are to be adjusted for. Do I hear the echo of Orville Faubus here defending segragation in Arkansas in the 50's? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Heinrich H, you don't own the words Nazi and Holocaust. Others suffered too and you probably don,t find the use use of the words so "repugnant" when YOU are analogizing. Too bad. See something that resembles a Nazi, sound the alarm. It is too late in the game to have to check with you for clearance before sounding said alarm. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 AMEN! {Pretty Much, anyway} Postage, National Parks, waterways, and a few other things but basically I'm with you. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Well, it looks like the Arabs got indicted and the snakes are skating! [ So far, at least } I hope this is not a PR coverup. Do the snakes have particularly influential connections? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 OXnin, Tu Tu ain't no kind of Catholic! He's an Anglican. I know all those Christians look alike to you, but they are different and THEY can tell each other apart. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 What exactly is Eggers "inciting"? Once again this "proprietary" word "Nazi" come up. Only some can utter the word and some can never be described by it. If you see a Nazi, call him out! It's an equal opportunity appellation and anyone can shape himself into a good fit if so desired. Just be careful you aren't the pot calling the kettle black! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Hispanic-flavored Nazis! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I,ve been saying it for years. Bomb the bastards now for their threats! The hell with how much progress they are making towards weapons development. Put the word out that sympathizing with them might get you a dose of the same tonic. Even the brownie scout-peace nowniks are starting to talk tough on this forum allbeit in a someshat high pitched voice. Doubtless they will arrive with the Red Cross after the action is over and try to claim combat veterans status. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Get the U.S. Out Of The UN! Anybody remember THAT bumper sticker? [ and don't waste your time inferring I'm a JBS member. And don't report me to the principal, Mr. Hall Monitor! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Explain, please. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 KK, when someone is shooting at you and the rounds are getting closer to you, stop running, take careful aim and return fire! Don't "Stoop to their level" but assume the prone position [ which is even "lower" ] and place that shot precisely into center of mass. Hopefully, you will have a more accurate weapon , a flatter shooting bullet and more retained energy upon impact. But, oh hell no! don't you dare to stoop to their level. That would be too much like defending yourself properly with resolve. Or wait for the approach of the enemy and just hug and talk him into submission. Lotsa luck! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Davvid Hicks, is that cute little ,jaundiced happy face winking or wanking? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 TM, that's trying TOO hard for victimhood! [in advance, no less.] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 A simple attempt to hide and hold onto the goods they "own" and prevent others from seeing what they own. Very, very sad and very, very, primitive. It doesn't surprise you does it? Is this what you want in YOUR neighborhood? Like it or not, thats the trend. Why don't you express yourself in the next election and out-vote the putrid, progressice, pork balls you let get past you last time? You would also be doing the burka victims a favor as well as preparing a decent environment for your future progeny. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 To save this culture, it absolutely must be picked up and moved! To remain is suicide. The bunch of naive, ignorant, children from Mt. Holyoke College who are "volunteering" in Africa might think [if they can drop their IPOD's long enough] about re-directing their energy toward helping these Jews MOVE OUT of Yemen. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 It is time to discretely interview some "participants" if there are any. Consider also that evidence can be manufactured. One who would voluntarily get blown to bits would volunteer for live or post-mortem desecration "for the cause" just as willingly. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Phili, thanks for that. I like your broad perspective. Some, including myself, will benefit from this and some will miss the point and try to compete with you on the "Who is a Jew" concept. I wish they would consider what you say very carefully and not just muddy the subject to "get their 2 cents in." So many of our comments are worth just about 2 cents at times, and I include myself in that. Anyway, experience {knowledge] and understanding and wisdom. Thanks, again for taking the effort. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Promises! Buy the material back if you want it. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Well, Jerry it must be because you are continent hopping in your GULF STREAM [or do you have a 787] to see all those car races and spreading infection with all your "cha-cha cucaracha" valets in attendance. Did you teach John McCone physics while you were house sitting in Altadena? Remember to feed the dog and have the yard in good shape when the owners return. Make sure you sleep in the guest room and don't let your friends come over and plug up the pool filter. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 "Sniper, my ass!" Who trained you to shoot your mouth off so inaccurately? EVERYBODY was a squad leader in basic, a forward observer in combat and a green beret. Probably another personnel clerk like turns up here so often. Your braggadocio would support your being in the branch you claim, however. Sure you weren't a seal too? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Mussa and Arkady and that's it huh? CS! Speak ill of another Jew? There IS a time for it and it is now! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Send his little ass back to Argentina. Drugs are cheaper there and his dealer would just kill him when his account became delinquent. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 OK, so I was a little redundant on the "curve" thing. Just consider the content, I don't re-read and re-write obviously. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I liken this to setting up a floral arrangement on a bad curve on a dangerous curve to commemorate the death of a motorist. The death is certainly sad but the memorial won't change the driving conditions a bit. Take "another" route. Get yourselves out of the neighborhood of the club weilding stalkers whose return is inevitable. They will club you and your children again and destroy the memorial. Do you think having a few sympathetic cops on the job and a few decent politicians tempoarily in office will save you? No, this all is based on something that is much more deeply ingrained in the culture and while you may pretend all is on the mend, YOU will be partially to blame for the death of children this time around. Harsh words I know but the voices from the graves agree with ME! Pack up and get out now! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Too bad Rachel and Noam weren't "holding hands and hugging TD." Western civ. is hitting a low spot and re-entering the dark ages. All the psuedo-intellectualism in the world will not slow that down. What will get "us" through it will be those small, isolated groups of homogenous thinking that will stand tall, or remain well-hidden and keep faith in democratic ideals and their CREATOR! Diversity and hand-holding in the park with the enemy will only delay the new renaissance. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 G-d bless "ignorance" for it makes the contrast to recognize "wisdom" when and where it unexpectedly appears. "Awesome" ? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Good for Sweden. Support the freedom of the press and personal opinion. The "CONTENT" of the article is a separate issue and must be attacked or validated with accurate reporting and presenting of the facts. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Western civiliztion is succumbing more frequently to pressure and threats of "more of the same" unless these 'ner-do-well" criminal, perpetrators are released. A starting point may have been when Clinton released the Puerto Rican terrorist-separatists. It is a rather sad day for the electorate who, in the past at least, hoped for statesmen who would put their people ahead of their own lives and careers and personal agendas. Daily the fools, apologists for the enemy and recognition craving fools gain more power. While we hope this self-defeatism is on the wane, I don't think we've seen anything yet. There is an indication of the public being more aware and incensed lately. That's cause for hope. As long as free speech is alive and well and this awareness has a heartbeat, we might just make it through this. Europe inherits these power structures, we vote them into office. "Ya think we've learned anything yet? Some postings on this forum would indicate we havn't. Wouldn't save time if some were just more succint? Damn, if the argument is weak, just shoveling more crap on and dishing out drivel with sub-titles only reduces effectiveness. If it's ego stroking you need, just present the points and lose the tedious formats. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 These do-gooders should do their volunteering in the country they came from. Like maybe the hills of Kentucky. But no they have to go somewhere....................Oh, hell you know what I'm going to say anyway. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Robert, I read it. Now I'm kinda scared. Very gentle sounding individuals but all countries to give up sovereignty to a central authority of Baha'i philosophy? One international language? ESPERANTO? One executive? King of the world with absolute power? The several sects bickering in and out of court and competing for power and recognition would seem to throw a damp towel on the grand plan for world control. So is Wahid Azal a disgruntled member or what? They are accused of using undue "pressure" on the fallen out, backsliders? Sounds a little like that famous California group with so many screen actors in that respect. Don't get me going on that! Well, thanks again Robert. Robert Well, are you a former member? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I would like to hear more from these Menschen more often. They're always more numerous than the media would like to admit. But today, here they are right here for everyone to see! It's refreshing isn't it. Thanks for 'em, forum. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Well...blowing it up would be a nice "live" drill in preparation for the future blowing up of less "flimsy" programs. [Nk or Syria later on. But with NK, Why wait?] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Thank you, Robert. Appreciated! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Nobody seems to want to comment on the two "snakes" and their behavior. Consorting with the enemy. And YOU are no better if you don't get off your ass and give some kind of encouragement to the relatives of the victim and at least validate their feeling of horror at this incident. Shame! Kahane was right and Mussa has the balls to say it! C'mon now all you self-hating red "progressives" who wants to be first to comment on me and ignore the theme of my post? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 More live-born babies and fewer abortions would change numbers in this worrisom proportion of doctors to patients. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Maybe the Swedes saw a salted herring and just "thought" it was an organ. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Once Russian, left-wing fascists, now right-wing fascists. Still fascists. It's hard to keep a fascist down no matter the political environment. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The U.S. Passport is being abused more and more frequently of late by people who have "purchased" the document, retain troubling dual citizenships and travel around the world as spies for their particular political parties in their original homeland and then call on America to bail them out. Korea? This while Americans languish in rat-infested jails overseas and indeed, Mexico! [Native born Americans} 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 David does not have the wherewithall to define "rationality". With "racism" he might be better qualified. Fortunately he, like the rest of us, has only the power to speak [ which I support ] on this forum and like so many others can only WISH for the power to adjust the guidelines of good taste and propriety on this forum. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Ok, so it's the third oldest Will Edwards. William and Mary is no different and you might find a smattering of respect for the Constitution at Washington And Lee University. I would prefer a set of "The Great Books of The Western World " over four years at the schools mentioned. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I'm not "some people' and I have constantly supported the right to vomit Holocaust denial if that's the individual's choice. If Judaism teaches "that" type of censorship as you call it or "self-censorship" to quote you more accurately, someone has confused "insult and cruel speech" with free speech. No, it was a cowardly CS move by Yale and a stupid decision. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Proffessor Jytte Klausen should sue and carry the case to the U.S. Supreme Court and see if Sotie loves and respects freedom as claimed. Too late, we've got her permanently. But at Yale, if it's a safety and violence issue, lift the censorial action on the book, observe those advocating or committing violence or threatening same and enforce the law with whatever agency needed and to whatever extent neccessary. Does the Wise Bird have anything to add to this? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 AJC, what an absolutely brilliant and brave response to the cowardly move by Yale to choose censorship over freedom of in an academic [ or ANY ] environment. This, in the oldest university in the country. The president of Harvard was kicked out over a minor comment of little import that also was under the umbrella of protected speech but the rabble prevailed. So too at Yale apparently. Is free expression no longer valued even in the academic atmosphere? This is unfair to the students who have paid for tuition under the assumption they would receive an education. They are receiving an indoctrination in religio-fascism and will come to accept it as the norm, sadly. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Don't bomb Starbuck's! That's where Doctuer Fernadito del Diablos von Heidenreicher -Arsenscheisser drink coffee and play chess! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Scott, how about that Kaiser clinic down the street from you? That's the type of health care we,re all headed for. No more Loma Linda U for us! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 It,s the "painful part" of free speech, Alan. The part we have to listen to if we expect to enjoy the concepts OURSELVES. You being who you are would be expected to know the answer to your question. One of your first-year law students could explain this to you if he has ever read the constitution. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I saw some coverage of the Obama and Mubarak meetin. Boy, did Obama look bored, unhappy and uninterested! Maybe he had been up late the night before. Overwrought in a word. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Would that Morris Beschloss, who competed for and beat Mr. Novak in the the race to become sports editor of the campus newspaper where they were fellow students at the University Of Southern Illinois, appear suddenly on this forum and say a few words about the departed. It would be most informative. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Barry Scheck isn't going to like this! [If it's true, that is.] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Sol Alinski loses, by a landslide! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Limbaugh wins! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 "Blonde surfer boy, Imeant to say. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Six or seven years, Huh? That's just about the right amount of time to brush up on tactics, get a little dental work done, recruit some new members, do some consultation with older brethren, meditate, get off the drugs and booze and renew old friendships with inmates, STAFF AND CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS! Hopefully all the latrines have been re-located at taxpayers expense so nobody has to urinate in the direction of Mecca! I am not kidding, this has been done widely in the Calif penal system. It should be re-named the "The California PENILE System", perhaps! One positive alternative to all this is that OLD AKMED and his friends could get honorary "inductions" into the Orange County Chapter of the Hell's Angels and be helped through the "Proper Care And Treatment of Your Harley Short Course" with "hands on" help. Well....probably not, because our good friends in THE Nation Of Islam will take time off from preaching against eating watermelon and dancing with "blue-eyed devil women" to protect them and keep those nasty old, poo poo headed, blue collar, white, biker meanies and Republicans away. If they are too busy La Raza, the Surenyos, or by Gosh those cute little old, dog-eating, child raping Kmer Rouge or their gang joining Viet Namese cousins could help protect them. There is honor among haters of old Whitey and those parties mentioned will always hold hands and lean a blone, orange county, surfer boy over a chair. Think I'm kidding about all this? Well maybe you could dig up a cousin of your own from UCLA doing an internship on "couch alley" up in the admin bldg. getting ready to enter the wide world of Social Work or Psychtherapy. They just "love' working with those poor minorities as well as writing negative reports on those bikers to help deny parole requests for those bikers. I was there in a proffessional capacity, I'm ashamed to say. NOI! NOI! NOI! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 How many of are there in the country? Worldwide? How far back do your beginnings go, here? Worldwide? Give us some names of players we'd recognize. Do you travel freely in the world? Did you suffer in the Nazi era like some specific targets we hear more [but not enough] about? I tend to exaggerate the role of the fanatics in the Moslem world only because most Moslems seem to be silent on the militancy and violence subject, even to include local Mosque members I've known personally. Most appear to be AFRAID to speak up and that allows the shallow of thought, like myself, to indulge in "grouping" and I shouldn't do that. So specifically, can you live freely in a neighborhood and interact socially with the "quiet" Muslims? How about the "others"? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Marc, it's a free country in most respects. Fell free to "not understand." There are a lot of uninformed, misinformed and rigidly ill-informed around here. Join the crowd. Pull up a chair and make yourself comfortable. Feel free to whine and blather endlessly. But please, read just a little of the early history of the country. Try reading a few of the back and forth letters between the founding fathers. Make your own mind up. No disrespect meant for your education. You might be the best educated person here. And we WERE a country founded upon Jewish-Christian principles. Survey early history and compare the C"hristian" houses of worship by number of buildings AND congregants and see what you come up with. Fortunately for Jews, there was a relatively open acceptance of variant worship. Notice I said "relatively" too. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Color first, who cares about substance. "Gee"....the problem might be the blind subserviance to the Democrat party. Ya think? {and you think YOU'RE disgusted!] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Please replace "wabts" with "wants." Sorry.. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Marty, stay out of or move out of the U.S. , do yourself and all the nutbags a favor. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I thought I was the only one who never heard of her. Well.......if Arkady wabts to bless her soul, I will too. Bless her soul! Could she be a "Gabor?" Probably not. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 If the GOP hadn't "repudiated" Limbaugh so much the last time around they would be in the White House now. They probably will continue to repudiate him, spawn an anemic third party and lose again. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Cincinnati? Cleveland? "On the whole, I'd rather be in Philadelphia." W.C. Fields. I think he had it right. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Does that mean you REALLY agree withyourself when you post the same thing twice? Brown shirts gone or greenshirts today; still fascists and still Nazi's! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 U.S. could bomb Israel and he'd STILL get the same amount of votes. There is just "something" the J community wants and substance comes in far behind it in the long haul. Wonder what it is? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Actually my research on this subject has been ongoing for maybe 25 years BEFORE google was invented. I always prefer the personal report over the priggish bullshi......ers who frequent this forum and I just thought an invitation for a member of the faith could somehow enlighten some of us or our "mamas" if you get my drift. You sound like you are dieing to say something on the subject so why not go ahead on with it? We're waiting. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Maybe he is a disgruntled, former bank employee who got fired?Who knows? He should have got out long ago. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 We should have bombed every railroad track leading to every camp every day. It would have helped. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Right on! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 This is absolutely sickening. Eight against one! [ I don't count the two snakes as humans ] That's just enough to make me reconsider my stand on capital punishment. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Jat Tcath, you "rock" on THIS subject! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 NOI, huh? Now this an organization you should get real familiar with real fast! If you've never agreed with me ever on even one comment I've made on this forum, PLEASE do some research on this group! Just read a little of their material. They.ve been around since the fifties but essentially have escaped comment by most media due to the fear of being accused of racism. [thanks community for that!] Law enforcement is riddled with NOI members from bottom to top to the ranks of the high-ranking retired. Southern Center for the Intellectually Deprived, we'd like for you to lighten up on the militia thing [which essentially is a bunch of old gun collectors and deer hunters from the fifties with ultra high blood pressure] and get with the REAL enemy! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 What an absolute, damned, disgraceful shame! Drug money owed? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I TOLD you the Huck Man was a friend. But Louis F. would get more votes in the J community. Dat's prejudice-bigotry of some kind. What kind it is? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Mussa, help me with this. Were they tossing "road pies, pasture-apple pies" or those famous kidney pies they're so famous for? I understand Prince Harry has considered throwing them from the helicopter as a tactical method of crowd control. Or is the other prince who flys around in the chopper with the little propellar beanie on his head? Oh, those zaney, fun-loving Brits! I get them all mixed-up. [ like my sentence structure.] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 In 1962 I was in Berlin and tried three times to visit "Onkel Rudi." He was in Spandau prison at the time and the administration of said jail was rorated every three months between the French, Russian, British and the Americans. The Russians wouldn't talk to me, the French and British said he was refusing all visitors. I was afraid to try it while U.S was running it for fear of losing that Top Secret Crypto Final. I approached the Yugoslav Military Mission for help but none came. Speer and Schirac were there too at the time. I should've tried for Albert. I don't think Hess ever even accepted a visit from any relatives as I recall. I think a friendly guard finally gave him a suicide cocktail. I guess he had a "quality of life" issue. And don't you know that concept is coming to all of us sooner than later? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Lose the election and call play the "anti-semitism" card. You're living in a Jew-hating, hotbed of re-surfacing Naziism. What exactly do you think your opposition would campaign on, the issues? Start packing!!!!!! tToday's voting opposition is next week's club wielding pogromist lining up corpses like cordwood.] Have you forgotten the old photos? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Recalibrate? How about dump the leftovers from a prior administration and get some quality people of his own? Someone has some compromising information and he came in with a disadvantage and still is loaded down with it. Care to speculate on what it might be or would you rather just speculate on my being wrong? You are just speculating either way because like me, YOU JUST DON'T REALLY KNOW! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Let's spell it correctly, at least. NETUREI KARTA. For a full and succinct definition and statement go to Neturei Karta .com. Get it from the horses mouth and there will be plenty for you to make up your OWN mind. Highly interesting unless you "pre-judge." 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I won't bet but I hope the families have life insurance on them. Any B'ahai's out there to clue us in on the religion? I've met a few and a personnel officer rescued me from a racist attack when I was with civil service. Yep, a Baha'i. They all seemed like upstanding, ethical types to me and as I remember it, they seemed to put a high value on "mixed marriages" and the mix I won't reveal. I know they have a big center in Wilmette, Illinois and are anathema to Muslims. Inform us someone. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Any photographic evidence of him throwing rocks? If he did or didn't I would suggest he fall out of that tide "sweeping" protestors along and duck down a side-street. I was nineteen years old once and advice was seldom heeded at that time of my life whether it was solicited by me or just offered to me. Was this guy an Iranian citizen or what? Head for Israel when released would the advice I would waste my time giving him if I were in contact. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 If Israel is as far from an attack on Irans weapons facilities as they claim, a lot of people should resign. I think they are right on the verge of a surgical strike, are polishing up the "buttons" neccessary to launch, having drills with key personnel and are probably tell D.C. they aren't going to wait for the "OK" from ANYONE. Who needs permission to survive? Do it now and do the the Iranian people a big favor and the world too. Europe has enough Israel and Jew haters that a little radioactive dust or rain in the wind might tune up their perspective. Or perhaps they could show a little good faith and lean on the terrorists located in their countries. They shouldn't need to ask anyone's permission to do that either. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I thought Albania was the poorest country in Europe. Numbers change over time. This is the country where when a stray dog, or maybe any dog is sighted, the discoveror yells "DOG! DOG! at the top of his lungs and the whole village quickly stones it to death. It's their idea of rabies prevention. Good, family centered fun wouldn't you say? Or would you just say "different culture and we must respect them"? Yeah thats probably what you'd say. Of course you do know they stone kids for playing doctor or "immodest dress" too don't you? Just can't wait 'til you get a taste of Sharia in your own hometown can you? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 So now there are TWO "N" words running around? There is also the "Q" word. I use the "S" word for emphasis, once in a while. I even saw the "BF" word recently. That may be the reason that person is gone. Don't know. Can't we do better than "word usage" bitching? If I see a NAZI I'll be saying it. You don't own the word, you don't do my thinking and you won't be telling me what to say. [Except I won't say g-- again. Rhymes with Roy.] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Like him or not,agree with him or not, the Huck man will turn out to be the BEST friend Israel EVER had in D.C. When yer drowning and a guy extends a hand to haul you out, don't be a fool and argue religion with him. Until later, anyway. But I guess any person of colour over any white Christian, huh? We had better rethink this concept next time around. But we won't. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I looked at it Cheryl. They are "easily riled up" so to speak. This bunch could easily coming to a house in the neighborhood soon. Acorn could fix them up with a nice little four-bedroom re-po from some no-good, blue-collar militia type. An accidental death by a fire engine or a cop or well-meaning surgeon and then the "FUN" would start. More of your videos but with "familiar faces in all the familiar places." Can 'ya see it coming? {Ever been in a full-blown riot?] Cheryl, I'll tell you another thing Jews don't do. Their fun-loving teenagers don,t go out on the weekends and cut the ears off donkies! Now that's a kid you want to marry your daughter! No chance HE'LL ever be a wife or a child beater! Oh, hell no. I havn't heard much about it lately but did you know who leave a provision for a 2nd ammendment in Jakarta while he was there? Too bad that Christian kid wasn't "clinging to his GUNS and religion" instead of minding his own business and living in the wrong village with the "wrong" religion. Better go out and buy a huntin' and fishin' license while you still can. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 C'mon a little heart-felt prayer never hurt anyone. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Rabbi Chark, I could not have said it nearly as well but I agree. I harp on the money thing so much I know it irritates people. My innane comment about "Porque Dogues" was my way of saying "some have lost their way". And I am no better. I try. But not hard enough. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Here's a scarey thought. I FEEL we are at a point now that if a soldier was kidnapped, it would be kept quiet and the next thing we would hear would be the rustling of the schockwave, the flash etc and all that. I don't know what order they arrive in. That EMP would be a real problem too. Might be a good idea to wrap a radio in lead just in case. I'm of the opinion it is time to make the move with or without the kidnapping. It,s going to happen sooner or later and better sooner so we can be proactive and in control. It's pulling a bad tooth. It's a painful thing but saves suffering in the long run. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Dr. Pluss, I was [or thought I was a Gentile ] for about 55 years. I heard the term "goy" many times to include "Saturday goy", goyish referring to clothing etc. I always knew it was meant as an insult much as "Putzen" is in German. I doubt that I,ve used it myself more than three or four times in my life in any case. I'll be happy to cease and desist from here on out. I comment more than I should without doubt and I make plenty of errors in spelling, leaving out entire words etc. But I apologise at any rate and thank you for taking the time to bring it to my attention. And thanks very much for your comliment, too. Point taken. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Mussa, somebody's got to say it. { I mean besides our "mommas}. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Was that comment directed to me? Remember, I am the one who says there have been many Holocausts. I don,t particularly like the word because it is has been made to be a little too "exclusive" if you know what I mean. Darfur? Another present-day Holocaust. I am well aware of it. What the hell is the point of bringing it up on this forum? If your memory is working you will remember that I fight for equal-opportunity use of the "Nazi" appellation. Plenty of Nazis are around to this day and not all are German. Nobody owns that word either. I guess you will now call me a Jew hater or a Christian evangelist or? But drop that "Holocaust inventor" S........, if you don't mind! Ever wonder about my name? Madauros is a little town East of Tebessa on the foot of the Atlas Mountains in ALGERIA! So don't tell me about Africa, either! Try and focus a little too. You're all over the place. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 It is a shame when archaelogists only reveal the findings that back up their agenda. All info should be available if not site access for security reasons. This comment does not imply anything regarding the new site in Turkey. What was the deal on requiring the Huntington Library to not publish the Copper Scrolls found in the caves hidden by the Essenes? Dr. Herschel Shanks are you out there? Anyone? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The Jewish staff at the court where I worked in California did fine work, came to work as regularly as everyone else with one exception. Secular or observant they took every Jewish holiday off and every Christian holiday off. Well there can't be too much said about being observant "only on holidays" I guess. Being observant part-time is better than never. Maybe. Here is the problem. The court staff parking lot was almost completely empty on J holidays but the poor people {and I mean poor!] who were called into court were never told of this "thing" with the holidays and the predictable absenteeism. The calendar appeared to be normal but no cases were heard. Oh the clients came in from miles and miles away, on foot , by bus, by taxi, with friends and all these unfortunate clients lost a day's work only to be called past all the hearing rooms they were assigned to [that were "dark"] and called into the one room open and presided over by guess who? Yep, the presiding judge and one bailiff who called 'em in, "case continued for 14 days, yer excused" and sent them back home. Prisoners bussed back to their many holding facilities around the county and a whole lot of unfortunate people put to great inconvenience and disappointment all for the "temorarily observant" and those Goyim in the know to take a damned day off. This is the Sh...that breeds hatred and anti-semitism. Year after year the same old thing. Now if a client had known about it and stayed home and waited for the notice of hearing in the mail, Contempt, baby! Big fine. And the private attorneys knew the game too. Charged the clients a half day fees and mileage and then went home. CS.! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Ohhhhh.........Me sorry too much. Forgot big question! when da "colon-vaginitis-vaginalis ref going to come. Soon we all hope! So cute. Sooooo telling too. Babayaga war [say mit da "vee" not da dubya.] too mean to da malchick-make him drink too much borscht and now he so mean and "nichtisch" [not to mention Narrisch} und schmecklish. Did da babushka make you squat to pee pee too? Nasty, nasty. Make da boobala have gender confusion und da "........." point in da wrong direction. Kennst du was das bedeutet, du Dolt of a Dolmetsch of a Quark-nurd? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 My lands, it be da reincarnation of "cha-cha cucaracha Doctuer Fertigos del Diablos!" New llamo, same caca! Me haben die low IQ can't komoonicate mit da inteellectus magnus. Me go school now-learn to be Doc too. Me den gewt big schmart and travel too much mit beeg car! Lotta money too. more dan alle people in hole west coast. Dat me. Watch car race too. {from back row of parking lot.} Me got greasey-monkey job der. Maybe someday be very famous. Go on net mit foo-foo name. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I just re-read "tooby-troo." Whoops! What's that Holy Ghost thing? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 My kinda guy! [except the psuedo-nym. What up wit dat?] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Let's outlaw the religions of atheism, money, loud-mouth politics, chasing public recognition, camera hogging, blog-bullying, anonymous public utterances and scammery. Religions all and responsible for much suffering and stifleing of progress in the world. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Nobody but a nutbag three cashews short of a full sack would deny or believe in Holocaust denial. And there already is a common sense rule Tell the truth or be stupid and don't cross over into advocating violence! Isn't that common sense enough for you? You sound a little like the book burning SOB's that perptrated the tragedy> Why don,t you apply for a job at the Southern Poverty Of Intellect center and get on the payroll with that anemic looking Moke Porktak? Outlaw everything you don't like until some rat-filled NGO comes along and outlaws you. Offensive my ass. Your damned suggestions to muzzle the freedom of speech we all enjoy is what is offensive. John Quirky Publius! What a cute name. Why don,t you apply for a job at the Southern Poverty Of Intellect center and get on the payroll with that anemic looking Moke Porktak? Outlaw everything you don't like until some rat-filled NGO comes along and outlaws you. Offensive my ass. Your damned suggestions to muzzle the freedom of speech we all enjoy is what is offensive. John Quirky Publius! What a cute name.]]> 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Will they be serving Wilno or Vienna Brand hot dogs or those new-fangled, modernized "porque dogues" that are becoming so popular? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The real boundaries are in Numbers 34. Time to go for it. Get in the way, get nuked! Let's do it and let's do it RIGHT! Right? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Mattathias, Come Back! We need you now.! Bring your sons too. They also are needed! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Anti-Christians would do well to treat the Huckmeister hospitably on this trip> He will prove to be your best ally EVER before it's over so don't F..... it up for yourselves by siding with his domestic opposition. He just might be the next pres and he will be behind you 100%. You can always argue about conversion at a later, safer date! C'mon on now biggots, crawl out from under your rocks and cut off your noses to spite your faces! He will prove to be your best ally EVER before it's over so don't F..... it up for yourselves by siding with his domestic opposition. He just might be the next pres and he will be behind you 100%. You can always argue about conversion at a later, safer date! C'mon on now biggots, crawl out from under your rocks and cut off your noses to spite your faces!]]> 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 IRan: Oh hell no, you're not worried about Israel bombing your sorry asses. That's why you are appealing to that character-challenged bastion of Israel hatred, the UN to save you! You still have time to overthrow that bunch of fanatics leading you around by the balls but you don't, apparently, have the guts or the opportunity. Don't wait for U.S. help in said overthrow for the next three years. Do it yourself now! Save yourself while you can. NK? Same day! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And Clinton is over their kissing the "dear Leader's" ass and taking "thirdies" after Bill R. and Madeline. Well....we voted this on ourselves and will have to pay our dues. I wonder what he left this time? More missile guidance from Bernie S. over at Lor....? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Will, can you imagine how paralyzed with fear all of the old "moles" who have worked for the various American intelligence in foreign countries must be right now knowing that their identities are being compromised by that gang of Reds in D.C. and Maryland and Va? All the hiding they did in their own countries only to be undone by the "swimming pool, BMW driving "Yalie" commies who grew up here under this oppressive capitalistic, racist bunch of running dogs of imperialism. Oh, to enjoy the freedom of NK and to be able to sit in the forest and have a picnic and dine on one's favorite tree bark or noxious weed. Maybe some cool stream water too. What more could one ask for? Perhaps an army career and be able to ride in a real CAR! No, now that grandma and grandpa have starved themselves to death and we,ve eaten the cat and dog maybe we can save for a bicycle. Wouldn't that be fine? Just think of it! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Watch it Will, that's the kind of talk that can get you "reported" with a followup E-mail demanding you refrain from any further threats of personal violence or you will be "reported again". {to the same entity I guess] Not that this has EVER happened to me, though. This is why I no longer resond to any of the long-time, thin-skinned ladies who indignantly and self-rightously attempt to set the limits of good taste and opinion on this forum. I am only speaking in generalities, however. Some might accuse me of getting close now but not me! iI don't like being sent to the principals office, even if only on the elementary school level. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Schuster, "neutrality" is a point of excellence in journalism when limited to the news reportage. The Forward, while historically a commie, pinko [red] rag has always been a good read for accurate information on events. The reporter's identity and personal views were always only to be guessed. The opinion section well.....let's say it appealed to "large" crowd of brethren and has since the 1800's and is still in business. The coverage of Postville and it's involvement in local politics was extraordinary. No sacred cows in the news section. Arts, entertainment and culture is just very "Jewish" if I can use that word. Take that part of the paper for whatever you think it's worth. My subscription was dropped because of their distributing my name to fund-raisers and lazy scammers using the Holacaust and Israel to "percentage" their way to retirement or their next trip overseas on personal business. But a hell of a journalistic tradition, anyway. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Bill, I'm no rocket scientist and I agree, that would appear to be his meassage. Now if I had it figured in ADVANCE, why did 74 or 76% of the J community vote for him? Color over substance? {and the question was for Bill. But knock yourself out. No E-messages please. I don't usually read or respond to them.] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I am going to be a difficult one, if ever, to convert to regulated censorship. If the majority votes on and controls what can be said, the minority will never be able to speak. The problem of Nazis propagating their hate was not a problem of "too much free speech and too much opportunity to practise it" but too little freedom of speech for their victims and on a worldwide basis, not enough active objection to what the bastards were up to. The "Mein Kampf" thing has been pretty well hashed over on this site and I believe it's agreed that it is and was pretty much it's own worst enemy. Ben Hecht went all over the U.S. trying to raise funds to stop the Nazi thing and finance the creation of the state of Israel and got mostly the cold shoulder from "most" of the Hollywood wealthy and Bev Hills millionaires. The answer then and the answer now is not to wire mouths shut and smash presses. If it is wrong, stand up and oppose it! If this is a Jewish only site, JTA should headline it as such. I want to hear what the enemy is saying. Forewarned is forarmed and it is a tactical advantage. It is not for me to be more "pro-active" in reporting anyone. Requiring the use of a legitimate full name might make for a hell of a lot more responsible commenting here. Then YOU could archive names yourself and pass them on to the entity of your choice. I doubt that JTA is doing that either. You can bet there is more than one Fascist around here doing just that. Blackie, you might be a little more of a standup guy yourself and elicit more attention to your valuable points by using your full name. We have heard the hollow sounding excuses from the CS cowards why they won't do it but I hold out hope that you will either change your ways on this subject or give us a palatible reason why you won't or can't. I'm telling from experience, nobody really pays much attention to "anonymous" and most of the message is lost. When this getting removed from the forum thing ever takes hold, I know I'll be gone due to the cowards "mass bitching and complaining" and I can just about tell who the first two to lead the movement would be. And one of them would be anonymous and the other may or may not be using a valid name. So I'll pass on the attempt to recruit me into the world of ratting, thank you. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Sometimes being "kidnapped" can be such a "fun" thing. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 No problem with that as long as they "mind their own business" and don't deprive any women or minors of their civil rights such as in divorce, custody, propert settlements, arranged weddings etc. And no...they key point is "separation of church and state." When that excellent concept is preserved objectively, none of this other crap needs even to be discussed. The "schools" have also managed to define most of the students as "special needs" children. Yeah....So the "special needs teachers" receive an especially large pay-check and the schools, which are practically "special needs schools" get much better funding than the "PS's" around the rest of the town. This is the Sh..... that breeds hatred and anti-semitism. Money, money, money. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 what ever happened to the separation of church and state? Nowadays people are too busy GETTING stoned to stone anyone. They just pick up a stone, look at each other, start to smile and then fall over on the ground with uncontrollable laughter. It all sort of gives new meaning to getting "stoned". 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Send some h1n1 vaccine to Kansas. We promise not to go to MECCA this year. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Not yet. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I'LL do the followup FOR jta. "She went WILLINGLY!" 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I havn't been able to a clearly focused photo of the mermaid yet but i have located a perfectly clear image of her on a crisp taco chip. How would I go about sending it to the cashier for my reward? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Parents, wife, four brothers and sister, what's holding you back? Head for Israel while you can. You're needed at home. Your TRUE home. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And the soldier's character machine must be even SLOWER! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I doubt they'll ever give him up. He's too valuable to them. I've said it before. He's their "ace". An insurance policy. If a rescue is attempted, a lot will happen at the same time including major territorial acquisition. Good! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Why even go to Jordan? [except in armored vehicles to TAKE and KEEP it!] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 What ever happened to "Billy Beer?" I could go for a couple right about now. Trouble is, it goes right through you and with a PSA of 17, you can,t always find a potted-palm tree in every hotel lobby.when nature calls. Did he ever get that loan from Kadaffi? I might head on over there and apply for a job at the moble home factory. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I havn't had so much fun since the neighbor's hog ate their baby! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 OK, but can I send my "Cha-Cha" over to borrow a half a cup of rice and some baloots? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Mussa, Mussa. Mussa! You are very creative and your plan is better than mine. Neither plan will meet with anything but derision or silence I,m afraid but we can never give up. And that wine in the Bekaa under a shadey tree? I would settle for Muscat if no raisin wine is available. And then we could hire some locals and search for Sadam's WMD's because that's where they were hidden. [Not under a shade tree but somewhere in the Bekaa.] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Let's just be practical. Avoid visiting places where you are historically hated and for G-d's sake don,t even consider moving there. Just one last trip to get the old folks out and that could probably be handled discretely by a travel agency. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The theft could be as much a sign of a failed, alcoholic, drug addicted society with the residual problems of recovery from Marxism. The economy is still in a shambles. Yes, make the markers out of concrete or better yet, skip the way-markers, consult the nearest synagogue, hire a guide to the cemetary, pay your respects, keep a low profile in view of the history of the behavior of the locals, pay for the upkeep of the graves [or horror of horrors, do the maintenance YOURSELF!] and don't be fool enough to expect Poles, Russians, Cossacks or any of that bunch to leave the signs un-molested. Rubbing it in their face will get you killed or the vandalism mentioned. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Did you say "CAMBODIA"? There aren't enough Jews in Cambodia to pay the light bill on one building. Assistance? Business assistance. Call it what it is but don,t solicit me for donations. Another intolerant culture that hates non-asians. Cabodians who are the sworn enemy of Viet Namese will drive a hundred miles to a city to buy supplies from said enemy and avoid shopping at a next-door supermarket in a community where they gain their wealth. They do understand the concept of the SBA loan, do not charge each other sales tax and are experts at "renting" or "buying on contract" the child of a neighbor or poorer relative to bring in for labor and other "personal services" for males . They are the frontrunners in developing a new slavery in the U.S. They add these victims to the "family" paperwork early in the move and these kids wouldn't snitch if you pulled out their tongues with pliers. That, plus shame, dishonor and ruin is what the mother or father they ledft will reap if they don.t cooperate on the job. The only escape is a transfer, with permission, to one of the criminal gangs in the cities and a quicker, cash payoff to their owners. This is a recipe for social disaster and this is the slavery that needs more than a "wink" by the Washington, political establishment. The titillating coverage of child sex by the networks and the lone, overworked prosecutor is insufficient. Anyone want to take this on? Iris Chang was working on this and the "Nanking" problem with Japan but alas, she committed "suicide"? Sure. If Jews are going to move to Cambodia, they are under scriptural mandate to do what they can to halt this. I await a progress report. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The "Jewish Forum Of Ukraine" is stirring up a hornet's nest. Thanks to some crap stirring, big-mouths a lone senior citizen or some kid walking home from school will take the brunt of the fury. Just leave while you can. Sell for pennies on the dollar or just leave the house with what you can get in your pockets at intervals, meet at the airport and escape. How much is your life worth to you? And don't stay back and be the last to leave. We've all seen that story. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 We human beings are USUALLY capable of determining what we choose to believe when we have all sides of the story and the complete view of the issues. Cut part of it out for me and I will be your enemy. NOBODY thinks for me! Intelligent, well informed sources can HELP me make up MY OWN mind, however. This forum helps me do that. And some on here are a help too. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Paranoid? No, they don't think someone is after them, they are just trying to finish up a job they have left over from the thirties and forties. They are after Jews and Gypsies and they won't change their ways in our lifetimes. There isn't enough of anything, including money, to make me live there and I may as well add the Ukraine and Russia to the list of dead zones. It is ME who has been called paranoid because of my constant harping on people staying there. As time goes on, my suggestion that every Jew get the hell out will prove to be a more and more practical plan. PLEASE move out now! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Will, NOW I have read the ABADY post and could use YOUR explanation. It goes too far back into tactical history for me and I have an inadequate understanding of that period. I wouldn't put much stock in anyone's comment who refuses to use his real name. I told Mussa I read his comments and take them as presented for "MY OWN REASONS". The main reason is that I have to hear it from the source whoever or whatever the source. I just can't abide the "ganging up" thing and we all know the best medicine for the idiot is to cut off the recognition that comes from the response obtained. We all have suggested to each other to ignore one or more individuals but we then quickly fold and go right back to the bitch fight. I was mightily guilty of not heeding my own advice recently but now can find no evidences of his postings. Maybe they were removed. I campaigned to let him have his say in any case. I have no inside connections with JTA and don't know if it would have any effect, anyway. I really just can't see what difference it makes who makes the comment. The comment is all that matters. I am too quick to comment usually and too quick to take offense. But I'm working on it. The megalomaniacal loser I just finished with will be the last who draws me out, I hope. We just had a lot of geography in common and I couldn't resist. I also would have liked to see him catch a little more heat than he did. I may dissappoint people once in awhile but I will be here to help [in more ways than one] if the need arises. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 So no one has a comment to my suggestion that there is an undercurrent now that causes the "look over your shoulder" and a "glance around the room" prior to speaking, huh? I,m astounded by the silence and frightened at the same time! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Correct! {And ya know what? I don't give a Sh.....whether I'm on your tired list or not. But you must admit the persons on your list got there by their "freedom of expression. Nicht wahr?] And I guess you have the right to flaunt it. Sometimes sticking up for civil rights can be SUCH a pain in the ass! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I also support the sale, display, or possession of Nazi crap. Freedom of expression. Simply that. I also know the individual in California who though born in New Jersey has affected a type of vernacular English that comes complete with a German accent. That is quite common in the neo-nazi culture. He is in the import-export business and supplies a major amount of the phony assed uniforms and insignia found in Europe today. His wife is from Asia and has relatives in sewing shops around Manilla cranking this stuff out 'round the clock. It gets sold on the internet. This guy wears German army clothing dawn 'til dusk [probably sleeps in it too!] parades around the Palm Springs area unmolested and is well known to JDL and B'nai Brith and the feds. He went states evidence after getting jacked-up on receiving some military goods and probably provides a "buyors list" now to the highest bidder. That would be very useful for European cops. Enough of this. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Mussa, I didn't know you were having that problem. It is wrong for JTA to cancel anyone's account, period. I once came to post and had a "MAJOR CHARACTER DISALLOWED" flash on the screen for a few days. Apparently my probation was lifted and my comments started flowing again. I don't really know what happened. Another individual requested his comments to be voluntarily removed and possibly mine went with his. I don't know for sure. I havn't noticed your comments to resemble those of others and just consider them on their own merit. I might add I don't find your stuff particularly offensive, as a rule. You sound like your conclusions are based on personal experience and I ALWAYS want to hear that if it's even close to being on subject. I know the third rail here may be fund-raising and I stay off that. To me this forum doesn't stand on the JTA articles and coast on the reader's comments. It's more a case of the articles stimulating comments and the comments being the major items of interest. I am frequently insulted by certain idiots on here, but have an agreement with one that benefits us mutually and at present we just know that one feels America is the world's problem causer and Canada is a nearby toilet for civil rights and freedom of speech in general. The delusional braggart I'm finishing up with at present will be gone perhaps and may re-appear with a new name at which point I will ATTEMPT to ignore. One thing is sure here, I have never "reported any comment" by anyone and will never do so. I would not even desire to see the particular individual I referred to have a sock stuck in his mouth. I wonder however, if JTA does in fact do that, how this one got under the wire. But Mussa, all is well with you and I and I look forward to your comments for whatever my reasons may be. I know I have other friends here who disagree on some of this but our core beliefs are similar enough on the key subjects that friendship and loyalty will easily survive. The birthday bitches count for little anyway. I don't google other's names but the one time I recently did, I discovered some sickening comments by a poster and I still support his right. I,m just glad G-d didn't make me younger than I am and an employee or "cha-cha cucaracha" housekeeper or what ever that is he has around for his abuse. But I digress. Good luck to you Mussa. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I just did a little housecleaning. Lebanon would be better off in the long haul if they would do the same. It is a beautiful place. To sit under a shade tree in the Bekaa with a jug of raisin wine and a sack of grapes and figs would be OK under the right circumstances. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Retired court employee. Never had a sales job in my life. Lived in the Midwest for several years now. No kosher food available. No connections with desert for years. Have dealt with many clients whose "Rolls" is "in the shop" while they are driving an old Nissan. Please explain the "Jungle Bunny" comment made elsewhere re M. Jackson. Bright enough to weasel out of that? So, maybe you could tell us a little about your upbringing. Lotsa pressure? Unstable family? Who was the observant person responsible for this hostlity? We can help you perhaps. While no one of us can equal your superb, inter-galactic IQ, 15 or 20 of us in concert and our combined knowhow might be up to the job. Or maybe not. We'd like to help you. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Will, you just gave us the profile of the classic self-hater. There are many here and I don't point a finger at anyone in particular and certainly not the person you were addressing. But your accurate description brings the term to mind. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The "Grand Master of Chess" is having "grandiose" delusions. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Did anyone ever see the movie "The Seven Faces Of Eve"? It probably was a novel too. Multiple personalities. It's kind of an ego-defensive mechanism where one simply switches to another mode when the heat gets too intense. I see a lot of similarities around this site. One who is usually first to post suddenly disappears and another name replaces it. But still first [usually ] to post. See a pattern? I use my true name at all times and if the group, with a couple or three exceptions, convinces me to get lost, that's what I'll do. Might take some real convincing, however. I'd still keep reading in any case. There is a lot to be learned here. Probably not from those who are "self-appointed" teachers though. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 A house sitter discovered. Probably too wealthy for Bighorn too. I've a million of them in the desert. Over the max credit cards, rented car [tank on empty] and one step ahead of inhouse security for working the bar. Maybe a waiter or companion for a wealthy elderly couple. Maybe not. But still somewhat preoccupied with butt. {I've "SEEN" a million of them. Sorry.} And we'll let our fellow posters judge whose buttons have been "pushed." 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Guess who referred to the late M. Jackson as a "jungle bunny' on another forum? High IQ doesn't get anyone the right to use that term. {if indeed one has that IQ and isn't just house sitting yhe summer out for free rent while the owners are away on "holiday". I can't believe I didn't just say "vacation". 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Dr. Ferdie, you jump rather quickly from masturbation to your oft used term "colon-vagina". Got a little fixation there? Intellectuals like you sometimes confuse the two. They are both designed with a specific purpose in mind and we wouldn't want you to "do the wrong thing with the wrong one." There is a a clinic there near you where you can get that equipment repaired, re-lined, rebored or indeed sort of 'redesigned" if you "mis-use" it too often or too vigorously. Save your money and maybe you can someday make it to Morningside Country Club where people are more frequently from San Marino rather than that hasbeen bunch of tract houses in Altadena. It is the other "Baldwin Hills" to most in the area. Never was much since Zane Gray left and my cousin Roger left. But we got your number now Ferdie. And Ferdie, one other thing. Get some grease-monkey to turn that waterfall off at the entrance. Causes too much humidity! Are you sure yer not at thunderbird villas across the street from the real thing? I doubt anyone will respond much to your comments after this display of your true colors. Or maybe they will. Who knows? [Or cares?] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Hey, Dr. Ferdie, why don't you drive over to Palm Springs some Thursday night and talk to the Rabbi at "Ask The Rabbi" right in front of Starbuck's? He's a nice guy and the two of you would enjoy the rap. Whatta you got over there in Palm Desert? I always wanted one of those little condos on Highway 74 so I could walk down to get a coffee on El Paseo at one of those little, pissy sidewalk cafes. When I lived over there on East Mountain in Pasadena I never saw you on Arden Road over by Cal-Tech. I was too busy going to PCC, I guess. I did talk to Jerry Buss over at the Ocatillo Lodge on 111. A twenty year old with a Ph.D. in physics as I remember. But hech, you're probably holed-up at the Morningside out there by the pool. So MANY pools too! If you get too lonely, head for the Spa over in DHS. Closing time you can troll down Palm Drive toward the freeway and maybe get lucky. You might want to drop that line about being an "elite academic" and "enlightened" and all that, however. That would go over as well as it does on this forum. I've got another friend over on Tamarisk Ave. in Rancho Mirage who has a column in the Desert Sun and a couple of radio and tv shows he plays with when he isn't coordinating CFR conferences in your area. Boy would I like to see him tear you a new ass! Now remember, Ferdie no stops at the Casino or Wheel Inn Truck stop on the way back to LA. You could get in trouble around there. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I knew a public defender once who after eating a ham and cheese sandwich, started growing hair in the palm of his hand. What up wit dat? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Red shirt, brown shirt or "GREEN" shirt; there is plenty of opportunity to be a Nazi. Too bad if it doesn't fit your personal definition. The word is in general usage now. We get glimpses of it here dressed in work clothes to black robes. And the clothing don't make or break the man, it's what's inside that counts! We still have the right to speak freely though, don't we? We aren,t in a crowded theater are we? Nothing is on fire is it? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Would either of the geniuses referred to or replied to remove us from the public forum "in their inestimable wisdom"? I'm thinking the answer is yes. Not due to an interpretation of the constitution but as a result of some arcane wisdom they possess due to some "diverse" experience picked up in a subculture. I don't hate often but when I do it can usually be found to be directed at a priggish fool who Fu.....s around with the original intent of the constitution. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The bomb isn't as far away as U.S. intel claims. It's a self-serving prediction. Neither Dems or Repubs know what the hell to do about it. But we do. Don't we? Bomb them first or roll over and fry with your kids! When a neighbor threatens you with a loaded or empty rifle eveytime you pull in your driveway and follows you around town threatening you with a pistol and John Law says "Sorry, we can't do anything until he does something first.......", you wait 'til he isn't looking in your direction and put one right in the middle of his forehead! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I have been known to err at critical times. At those times I still use the same excuses. " Well...it was dark and I didn't have my glasses on!" They usually accept that . Less guilt for all parties concerned. My aunt told me I'd have to wear glasses if I didn't break a habit. Guess she was rifgt. Whoops. Another typo. I guess it's chronic now. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Yep! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Food just doesn;t have that old zing since Cantor Bros closed on Brooklyn and Soto {L.A.] Nice owners, mean wait staff. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 After all this, my appetite is gone. Can't eat now. Kosher or otherwise. Seems like a lot of unneccessary nastiness going on. I think a little JD on the rocks and turn the computer off 'til tomorrow will do it for me. But for the rest of you? Say what's on your mind! It.s your right and whatever floats yer boat. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And I apologize sincerely, the Phikki thing was no more than a typo..Typing in the dark with no glasses. Sorry, again. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Phikki, well at least we agree on Palin. And probably a lot of other things too. Actually, I don't really have a problem with either gender in a leadership position. It's more a species dislike probably. Women leaders can be just as good or bad as men. But coming from a disadvantaged position in society, some bring with them a lingering resentment of males and start early on the mass castration pogrom and neutering of things masculine in general. Some go into overdrive once they break through that fantasy glass ceiling they talk so much about and from then on "males need not apply. Their quest for equal rights usually screeches to a halt when the "equal opportunity" to change a flat tire or charge a dead battery appears. Me a sexist? Well..............it's true I do enjoy sex but that probably isn.t what you meant. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Bullshit Marty! MARXISM and collectivism has accounted for a helluva lot more intentional deaths than religion of any kind can be blamed for! And Mussa "separate but equal' huh? Are you forgetting Lester Maddox, George Wallace and that bunch in the fifties? If it was wrong then it still is! Little Rock High School? Those were different cultures too. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And Philli? I'll be the one to decide who I "allow to leave ANY subject WITH or WITHOUT dignity". I appreciate the opposite point of view and will fight for anyone's right to express it. "Friends" may come and go on this forum but friendship ain't what it's all about [in my opinion ]. It's about trading ideas, validating [or changing] one's point of view and truth. Real friends always seem to stay around [Will] in the long run and can be depended on for support. Let's keep it open to all. And by the way, since we're on the subject, I'm concerned for freedom of expression the last few days on a national level. We've always had organized opposition in this country on the part of all parties and the newly-developing "apparent" intolerance of dissent is worrisome to me. How about the rest of you? Especially the one's like myself who make heavy use of this forum. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 A blockade was never in the solution. All that was needed was a surrender by the dear little "Sun Boy" and all could have rested. His little, half-serious "We havn't lost the War, dear worshipppers but it's time to rest a while" crap caused the bomb to be dropped on a bunch of factory workers who had already lost their sons in the Pacific. A free press put into effect by the occupiers could have enlightened them and shown the Emperor for what he was. The message was the wrong one. We should have eliminated HIM and his line. They still won,t even admit they were in Nanking, won,t apologize for their atrocities and by teaching from "politically correct-sanitized text books" are creating another generation of dedicated believers. Well, China has NOT forgotten, Never will and I just wonder whose side we'll take when the the things gets "settled." 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Eureka! I just glanced out the window and there is one of those maidels dressed in white and wandering around in the wheat field with a look of longing in her eye! I,m going out there right now and talk to her! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And Blackie gets it right, again! And to David Cooper: you are the only one, so it seems, who assumes there is a marriage prior to all this celebratory, navel gazing and introspecting. Shackups welcome at this party? How about those who just met at Starbuck's? The elevator? Does any sane Jew out there even consider giving money to these people? My G-d can't somebody come up with a more useful way of scamming money without schwitzing? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I guess you gotta sit around the table with a group of them left over from the Second World War with a few Hrwatskis and Hungarians thrown in for variety and drink a few cups of slivovicha to get the general feeling of why I have somewhat of a negative opinion of them. As long as you can speak a little German and maybe a little Russian and they don't know your roots you can learn a lot. The neiborhood Serbian might even sit in, and indeed sit next to the Kravatte but sorry, no Jews allowed! The Serbs and Croatians may argue and come near blows and their European , gold dental work will flash while they gesticulate and scream but the one thing they ALL agree on is JEWS! No arguments there. They all yearn for the old days when you could beat an old Jew or stuff a cat down the bloused trousers of a Gypsy and beat them both with a stick in the police station! One told me "there was blood on the CEILING when they were done!" All this told during un-controlloable laughter by all. I faked a little myself. Where was all this? Palm Springs, baby! Right in Carl's Jr on the corner of Ramon Road and Sunrise Way! Don't believe me? Drop in and see for yourself. There are a few still living there. Or visit Sophia. Just don't get sick enough to have to go to the hospital. The plumbing includes a hole in the corner of each war with another one directly under that on each floor beneath that. Handy huh? The honeyman only has to dump one barrel in the garden each morning instead of schlepping a bunch of buckets around all day. The English are buying property there? Good place for them! Send a few Frogs too. I,ll donate to THAT cause! Most of the Bulgarian veterans I knew found at least a temporary welcome in Turkey before heading for Germany to work as guards in the "LABOR SERVICE CORP" while saving money to go to Canada for a rest stop and then on to New Jersey for a welding job. But you know what? No unemployment, no welfare, no handout, nothing! Just get that job and worl, work work and save, save, save for that first big trip back home after thirty or forty years. Now their ex-soviet compatriots who come nowadays? The hell with the vodka or work, we're looking for the welfare office and some drugs! C'mon Arkady...Back me up on this! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Painful as it is to say it , Sonia will go down in History more as an example of affirmative action than her bench prowess and legal wisdom. Such will be the case of the consummate politician who placed her on the bench, as well. Let's argue about it about a hundred years from now in an objective manner. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 No single person or party has exclusive ownership of the word "Nazi" including those who suffered most from them. A lot more suffered than usually gets the attention but those victims get the "back page." They are merely footnotes. They havn't found this forum, apparently either. If you think you see a Nazi, say so! If you think you see Naziism rearing it's head under a different banner, say so! If you see Naziism being developed in an un-expected place, say so! Be ready to sort the accusations out based on the FACTS, not the hot-button associations with the red herrings we keep turning up. When one group decides they own a word, they feel like they can never be accused of like behavior. Well, it ain't neccessarily so! A famous commie talk show host in San Francisco claims blacks cannot be racist because they comprise a numerical minority of the population. Well, when a child in the sandbox gets slapped around and has sand thrown in his face and lives as a minority or not , it is racism if the sand is thrown with race in mind. It goes from an individual act of racism to an institutionalized act when the school yard monitor turns his back on the scene or punishes it disproportionately. I am sure an Arab or a Jew can suffer racism in the middle of Jerusalem on any day of the week and it can be handled in many different just or unjust ways. No one can be certrified to be immune from the use or the victimhood of racism and nobody "owns" the word. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 So which ARE the "good" children. With that unmistakable "von" in front of your name I probably don't need to ask. "Old Germans" used the lower case for the "Vee" in von but you use upper case. Are you that proud to be an "of" or did you make it up like so many other phony names on here? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Maybe Japan has forgiven us.....I havn't. One of those two bombs should have been dropped right in the center of Tokyo on the Emperor's shaved head. We still will have to deal with that hereditary line and it's direct connection to the "Sun" before all is done. Hirohito lied about knowing what was going on and was actually a major player. The cruelty shown to the people of Nanking could easily have been visited on San Francisco and dare I say Bev. Hills had things gone differently. Von Roth, there of plenty of survivors left to speak to. You might visit Koyasan Temple in L.A. You will not be able to talk to the men who beat on the hull of the ship trapped underwater at Pearl Harbor from Dec. 7th 'til Dec. 24 , however. They all suffocated. Very, very slowly. Much slower than Zyklon D, I might add with all due respect to those who departed with that in their lungs. If you can understand Japanese, blend your round eyes into a crowd of Japanese tourists led by a Nisei-U.S. Park service employee and listen to them giggle while they gloat over the Battleship Arizona! If you were scheduled to hit the beach in Japan after it was beyond hope for them, you might bless Old Harry for having the balls to do what needed to be done. {Even though he should have targeted Tokyo!] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Alan, if the "strategic question for Israel is whether it can work with those in the Palestinian national movement who are genuinely committed to to peaceful co-existance on the basis of a two state solution...." then the tactical question for those Palestinians would be "will they be able to get home that night in one piece?" The strategic question for them will their children be alive by the end of the week, will the breadwinner be able to win any bread to eat and will the home still be standing to bake it in by the end of the month? A Jew-loving Muslim or any Christian Arab can hardly afford to be amenable to peace negotiations or sympathetic to any solution that leaves any living Jews around in the end. [I'm not too wise and I,m willing to admit it but I DO try to keep a tight grip on reality.} 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Ahhh,,,,but they're soooooo....sensitive and in tune with other's needs and wants! No dodge ball for these SNAGS. {sensitive new age guys ]. Nothing can happen to them that a big, fat, Marin County circle hug can't take care of! Paes? Hell no! Cut their little side-burns off even with their ear tops so their little coiffs can be just like "mama's little darling" wants. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Mussa, there is something to be said for boys becoming "feminized" of late. I don't like your use of the "Q" word and can't bring myself to type it as that accusation provided many in the past with the one-way ticket to the room that IG Farben created the atmosphere for. You do know about that don,t you? I,m thinking, after many years of observation, many years working with dysfunctional youth, and a couple of kids of my own that the predicament of the "metro boy" is more a symptom of the egalitarian relationship of the man-wife, mother-father couple. A weak [or "non-dominant} male figure will get you a less than assertive offspring or a crazy, mean little bastard for a son OR daughter frequently. Don't like my comments? I head my posts with my name so next time you encounter it, skip to something more to your liking. Work around gang-oriented youth or "hard time" losers and you,ll see my point. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The best thing these females could do for any Jew in Bulgaria is buy suitcases for their permanent departure, help them pack and give them a plane ticket OUT! And preferably not on some left-over Ilyushin salvaged from that flying circus once known as "AERO-FLOP"!! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The "prima facea" evidence is not particularly weak if it is reliable. But is it? If he lives long enough to finish the trial, I'm betting the "evidence" including eye-witness testimony will be found to be problematic in one way or another. I damn sure don't like the guy but there is something wrong with this case and there has been from the start. He is a celebrity case and many will jump on for the ride for whatever reason. Just my opinion. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Southland can always fix 'em up with a neat little 7-11. Anybody want a "slurrrpeee"? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The Ukrainian Jewish Committee should be spending their funds on one thing and one thing only. One-way tickets OUT! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 "Terrorism?" Well, no s.... Nate! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 When I see his countenance [complete with the red and white table cloth on his head} on a crisp, deep-fried, tortilla chip, I'll believe he flew to H......., well where ever guys like him go. But not until then! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Oh, yes! If there is ANYTHING they really mean it is the destruction of Israel! Once they spout that line, put them on the "list." {And I don't mean Schindler's. } 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Tassler? Nice profile. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Listen to "IsraelNationalRadio" .com if you are ready to make the move. Lotsa resources. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Sounds good to me. Sounds better coming from someone other than myself. Can we get this circulated in Hungary and the Ukraine and a few other appropriate places? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Rabbi Bonder, a delightful target you have created for the enemy! I Genuinely hope that "plush facade" as it is described is about five feet think and has plenty of re-bar imbedded within. I HOPE you will never need it but my guess is I will be reading of an attack on your place in the distant future. It will get coverage on this site and the apologists will hide and the one's who can't let go of that juicy, status quo in that "upscale" neighborhood will be sitting in the "short legged chair, if you get my drift. I'll be sorry and some of you will have taken the risk and survived and will stay put and others will no longer be with us except in blessed memory. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Does this surprise anyone? You ain't seen nothing yet unless you can remember the club wielding, fun-loving youth of the pogrom days. Your grandparents and great-grandparents got the hell out [the one's who weren,t beaten to death] and headed for better places and better days. Then came round two during the Second World War and more died and more left. Now what are you waiting for, round three? Well, it's coming. Close the office, sell the shop, quit the job, take your kids and leave! Whatever you're staying for is not worth it! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Will stopping the "hateful" publications and internet sites stop antisemitism? You are a fool if you think so! Hungary forbid a hate party recently and it showed up the NEXT day with a different name! The Ukraine is no different. Antisemitism and Jew hatred will cease in these countries when there is no one left to hate. If you are a Jew, use the extra portion of brains G-d gave you and move to Israel! When you have left, they will go after the Gypsies and gays which is their wont. Shutting them up and shutting them down just infuriates them. Do you think it makes them nicer? Better that they are out in the open to be identified and archived than underground and lurking. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Phili, I was in that bar when the Doc was there. Fortunately [or perhaps unfortunately] I am such a drp-deaqd handsome, witty guy, all those women were buying ME drinks! I am easily seduced and did not witness the Doc's attemmpts to gain social advantage since I was busy courting success myself. I left early with a clouder of chickadees and I am really am not sure the Doc was even there. We were at a place where there is a dress code and hospital scrubs and converse tennies are not allowed so..... how could he get in? But I saw you Phili. You were drinking seltzer and switched to Mitz Brand Cream Soda aroung midnight. But Philli, you got to buy a girl [even a schiksa already] something with a little fire in it. I suggest you offer up a "long island iced tea." That will almost guarantee success in most instances. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The little agri-towns in the midwest need to apply the Chasidic solution to their problem. Breed, breed, breed! Don't abort, abort, abort and let your daughters go to third rate state schools and come home ill-equiped to work, worn out and carrying a massive school loan. I know, I live there! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 See? I can't even SPELL surgery or ethics! I honestly need your help. Especially from an "elite" type like yourself. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Hey Doc, congratuations on being an "elite academic." Most academics put a more specific indication of their degree status after their name. Calling yourself "Doctor" causes me to wonder. You probably are a brilliant Medical Doctor with stunning achievements in renal and hepatic surger and astounding accomplishments in medical ethic. Where I live, putting Doctor in front of your name would mean you couldn't get into med school and settled for chiropractic, podiatry, osteopathy, optometry or naturopathy. So don't tease us.....tell us your bonifides and what yer up to presently! {Doc.] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 In a functioning democracy there should always be the contingency plan to handle the state of war seige or the time of crisis when an external or internal force gravely affects the normal operations of said government. Call it a temporary suspention of liberties that are being used to the ends of subversion or call it a temporary cessation of constitutional rights if you are fortunate enough to have one. You are never obligated to give equal footing to parties who threaten you or the system that is in place to protect eveyone. Eliminate the threat and then go back and breathe in the sweet smell of liberty! Of course the distinction must be made between civil disagreement and advocation of violence. Push us into the sea? Wipe us from the face of the earth? Not civil. Violent. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Increase? But ADL and their statisticians claim this activity is on the DECREASE. Who is one to believe? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I don't have enough facts to speculate on the actual incident but when clearing a path through an explosive field you raise the blade to shield your face and body from a blast and shrapnel. That D-9 engine eliminates your hearing. Don't play chicken with a vehicle that can't see or hear you. I'm still not convinced whether it was accidental-bluff gone bad or intentional. Did the guy in Tienanmen Square do his tank staredown before or after the Corrie thing? Copycat? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Cheryl, no one on here says "fascism from the right or fascism from the left, it.s still fascism" nearly as often as I do. The real danger is from the left. Score about a hundred million for the left in the last century. One can play around with the dictionary definition all one wants. Left wing fascism exists and is the worst Pick your partner, would you rather go camping with Cheney and that Eagle Forum lady or Bill Kunstler and that Langer woman who just hit the news in Germany? {I said "camping" not quail shooting!] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 C'mon............It's not the "money" thing with Jews and the "sex" thing with Christians, it's the money and sex thing with both of them! And the concept of "social isolation" by in-coming Americans? They are not Americans and that is their own choice. They enjoy the safety here, preach "integerate but don't assimilate" to their children" and consider American values a little "hokey" and peasant like. They see, in too many cases, the U.S. as a cash cow to milk and take advantage of generally and will bring it down to the level of the cesspools they left and the "culture" they left. Where will they go when this haven is destroyed like the one they fled? The Ukraine? Berlin? Russia? Lotsa luck!! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Haim, when you are in the water, going down for the third time, your core temperature is dropping and you're losing the feeling in your fingers, grab ANY hand that reaches out to you from a boat and offers rescue and help. Check his motivations and credentials and religion LATER! [AFTER he has warmed you up and promises a safe place to sleep} Why examine him while you are still in the water and freezing your butt off? These Christians just may be the resource that saves Israel, whether you like them or not. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Archie, in many Islamic countries high level political policy appears to be made in the Mosque, not the political caucus. How then if a religious leader determines political policy is there not a nexus between religion and politics. Marching orders are received at services and so are military promotions. Is the story of the rock snitching off a Jew or Christian and casting them out from hiding so they can be killed out of a political tract or "The Book?" If religion kept out of politics then you might be more accurate, but does it? And B'nai Brith Canada would do well to creep around and report AFTER the fact instead of "making sure security procedures are in place" before the fact. Before the fact makes them a policy shaper and meddler and a party to the affair. Is it a pressure group or an information organization to inform the public who can act in an informed manner? No donations from me, for other reasons in addition to these. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 What is missing here that causes the head of the Roumanian Medical Association make the Nazi comparison? I wouldn't think an otherwise ethical operation only lacking in permits would rouse his ire to the extent that he sees a similarity between "medical experiments similar to those by Nazis in Auchwits" and those done in the clinic. I repeat: something is missing here. It could be as simple as stem cell research. Or creating blue-eyed, blonde twins. Or not. Incomplete reporting by someone. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I heard somewhere today that the White House's going along with essentially a "No Jews" in certain areas plan is akin to racism. I say it is racism..Isn't this the old "separate but equal" we heard so much about in Southern schools in the 50's ? If it was wrong then it,s wrong now. Such "sharptonian" double standards scare me and the cry of white on black racism in this country at every turn is wearing a little thin if one considers we just elected a black [kinda black] president. And speaking of this situation, how about the black Harvard proffessor replying "I'll come out and talk to your Mama!" when asked to do so by a white cop in Massachusetts when a citizen reported seeing him force the door on his own home after leaving his keys inside? Was that racism? You know sure as hell it would have been "insidious" racism and selective "non-law enforcement' if no cops had shown up! Reverand Al will probably flood the media and indignantly demand an apology from the cop on behalf of former victims of slavery and to teach some manners to descendants of former slave holders. Where is the much maligned but succinctly brilliant Rodney King when we need him? "Can't we all just get along?" {hell no. There ain't no money or headlines in that!] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Will, there are usually one or two bad apples in evey box. That doesn't make apples bad in the total . I can certainly appreciate your sensitivity and your predictable outrage when ANY life is lost. That you are to be commended for. If you only pass one value on to your children, let it be that one. [ I am sure you,ve taught them many solid values in addition to this one ! ] Good for you and how fortunate for them. The blind following of any thought system or political movement speaks more to stupidity than loyalty. I for one put great stock in your conclusions and look for your comments as a moral compass so to speak as do others here. Thanks. Shabat Shalom! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And let me guess, some of these "self-appointed censors" probably rushed in to defend the artistic rights of the little punk Rastafarian when he displayed his "Piss Christ" in a gallery where you had to walk on the American flag for a full on view!That was OK I'm sure. Can't have it both ways hypercrits! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I remember the incident and don't know to this day if it was homicide or suicide-martyrdom. But I damn sure defend freedom of speech in a public forum and can understand artistic license. Does it claim to be an objective docudrama or propaganda with a political agenda? If you don't like the movie, stay home. How can you judge it if you don't see it? Just don't close it down like a bunch of shrill fascists! Others may want to make up their own minds. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Such a touching theme. Let's look at the credits and see ALL the players. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Close the shop or quit the job and get the hell out! The supply of "Righteous Gentiles" is repoted to be exhausted at present. You may be on your own this time. Rearing a child there is child abuse. [ In the Ukraine, that is. ] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Give her the Order of Lenin, bury her with it when she dies and see how many Palestinians show up at the funeral. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I hope this "I was a veteran" "no you weren't! " isn't going to start up again. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And just out of curiousity, where were these kidneys being sold that hit the news media today? And who was buying them in Israel for ten grand and then marking them up to $155,000? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 P once posted a couple of negative comments on the state of medicine in Roumania regarding "tonic transfusions" for children in hospital settings and promptly got compared in some schizoid way eith blood libel. The Roumanian medical community was quickly defended and my observations were written off as dating back to a time of economic conditions that ostensibly excused the practise. Never having been in Roumania as a patient or even a tourist and not being a "Romanophile" , I simply tried to clear up what I actually said. Now 22 doctors have been caught alledgedly breaking the law and their practises have been likened to those of Nazis. But not by me this time. None other than the head of the Romanian Medical Association now apparently has less faith and more vitriol for the medical establishment than I do! What up wit' all dis? Any defenders? Roumanians or otherwise? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Jersey? What else would you expect? I wonder if they ever got a decent place to eat in "Eatontown" or Shrewsbury? Seagirt, maybe. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 A snake is a snake, of course. Sometimes the analogy is inappropriate because it's an insult to the "good" snakes out there. And yes the "revolution" was stolen many years ago and those revisionists on the inside track were and are far worse than those who neccessitated the revolution in the first. A population that walks in winter snow with rags on their feet and backs a peer revolutionary who later finds their hero buying tailored clothing and hand made riding boots is a frustrated population indeed! I have seen pictures of Lenin"s Rools-Royce in his house-museum and I am aware of Daniel Ortega's shopping spree in Florida and the super expensive glasses frames he bought. Oh, well....isn't that what frustrated a lot of us old "peoples advocates" far back into our youth? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Please tell me in G-d's name, why would any Jew want to live in Germany and especially Berlin? Doesn't the echo of screaming babies having their heads bashed against brick walls while their mothers and fathers were loaded into trucks still ring in Dahlem, Lichterfelde, Steglittz, and Kurfurstendamm deafen you and make your damn blood run cold in your veins? What are you thinking when you move there? Business? I'd rather be on welfare in Nebraska any day. Don't just move out, don't move back! {I apologize to those who went through it. It needs to be said, however} 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 These "Langerisms" are common fare at many union meetings. Try the ILWU or AFSME or the IAPS and the one thing you will NEVER hear is communism. The codeword for that is "progressive" and it is creeping into the vernacular more and more. ILWU has been openly referring to Israel as an apartheid, fascist state for thirty-five years that I know of personally. Nothing new or surprising about Langer. Compton JC , Cal State, many many educational institutions "indoctrinate" their student body with this crap agenda. It does not need to be shut down, it needs to be confronted by opposing views. The trouble is, faculty who "oppose" even intellectually won't be employed for long and damn sure won't be promoted. David Horowitz can tell you all about it! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The Roumanian Mayor and his gosling son should just goosestep on over to Kiev and validate each other's nazi facination that is fast bubbling to the surface in both countries. Move to Israel while the gates are still open. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Arkady, so you do know about that school huh? Good for you. And a hell of a school it was! Is it still operating? Probably a new name now. Revisionists of later times do not deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence with him. You're either the only one here who picked up on it or the only one with guts enough to comment. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Which came first, the guy getting shot with the heavy coat or the RPG fired at the IDFs? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Similar situations exist here. There must be some reality somewhere between the "hands off" policy apparently in effect in Israel and the "Janet Reno-Bill Clinton" methods used in Waco. Killing the abused children may have stopped the abuse but overall, it's a very tough call. A good, journeyman-proffessional MSW without an agenda could have taken care of the problem in both cases. A message was sent in Waco and another was sent in Israel. I don't like the messages in either case. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Building burning is one thing, but trees, books graves and archaelogical sites well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I can't get down with that. But I'm not there either and need to qualify my comment as coming from a Fremder. I don't know how I'd feel if I lived there. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Right on Ari! How about Abrasha Stavski? And Charlie, how many times are you going to hustle that book of yours? It's getting a little embarrassing isn't it? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Ari, I read the article and was scrolling down to comment with almost the exact same words you used! You are so right and it makes one want to turn in one's membership card in the human race. Thanks JTA for the coverage. I can just about guess who will come on and defend this. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Charlie, we must preserve as proof to those in the future all evidence of Jew-killing. ALL incidents, not just those by Germany. Include those in the Soviet block countries as well. Include the profiles of ALL the players. Picking and choosing from the buffet of the guilty only perpetuates the blame and denial game. Six or even seven million compared to 'bout a hundred million. Little out of balance don't you think? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Gino, could you be a little more specific? Did a specific comment or question bother you? Address it in particular as a favour to all of us. We havn't heard you in a while. Missed you. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I hope there is a twenty-four hour a day guard in residence. First sign of desecration and I'd exhume and re-inter Rabbi Schneersohn in Israel. {Or elsewhere if there is a religious prohibition]. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 OK, now that you have brazenly gotten your plug in, you seem to have excused or forgotten how many millions the great march of Marxism to a classless society butchered along the way. Do you cover that in the book or do you "deny" it by minimizing the soviet murders? Fascism from the right or fascism from the left, it's still unacceptable and preaching brand "A" over brand "B" is simply a choice of very bad over very bad with a different flavor. With one you get marching music and with the other you get cabbage and vodka. Get my drift? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Yes. We need a sort of a radio-active, political, preparation H for this problem. Shrink one and burn the other one away. [ I couldn't resist ]. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The whole family should move to Kentucky. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Shaul, I NEVER pay rent and don;t need a roomie. I was thinking along the lines of November through April and the rest for the business partner. Can't take the baby donkies on the plane so I couldn't go anyway. I sincerely appreciate your kind thoughts too. Yeshiva study? Oh, yeah! That I am sorely in need of. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 See? A few of you looked it up but won't commen! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 It's news to me if I have posted a picture of myself. Don't have the equipment either. I just bought a real nice digital camera to make prints of the two, two and a half month old miniature donkeys I just bought and how could anybody be lonely with these cute little animals? They even try to get in the car when they are running loose. As you might infer, I don't live in Brooklyn. Shaul, I would have to get drunk to go to any beach with or without garb. Maybe I could get half-drunk, go at night and wear one of those ankle length male versions of a burka. Don't know what you call them. Nightshirt? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And this question from someone who spells and forms sentences like he/she came from so far back in the cotton patch it would take a relative three hours to carry a sack lunch out to him/her and require two dollars to send him\her a two cent post card! Oh, c'mon it's all in good friends here! Nobody makes any serious points any longer and the profusion of crapniks has reduced participation to the point that it's getting very boring. SAY SOMETHING, SOMEBODY! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Since the term "colored people" has now been defined an insult and been replaced by "people of color", why isn't it "NAAPOC" instead of NAACP? Double standard? Slow to catch up? What? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 LA County might consider their relations with China while they're at it. China is slightly suspect when it comes to human rights violations; Tibet being a case in point. How about divesting from the "Big Box China Schlock Shop" out of Arkansas? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Hi there, chicken shit! You're so brave but you have to use a psuedonym and screw around with spelling variations and punctuation to hide your identity. Junior college Marxist raised on welfare, no father in the house to buy those expensive tennis shoes maybe got through a state school and teaching elementary school and got just just enough bourgeois real goods yer afraid to risk anything by taking that mask and those shades, huh? Keep on pimpin', dude. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Chicken or just selectively active on human rights? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 An attack on Iran's weapons development sites conventional and otherwise is overdue. It would be a favor to the general population and would save them from a devastating war in the future. Great care has to be taken to minimize civilian deaths with the exception of scientists and tech types at the sites. The identities of a few scientists could be very embarrasing but these are the one's who provide information on progress in development of the weapons that worry us. A hard decision that will require careful consideration. A next day or simultaneous move on NK's Yong Byong site would be adviseable. We have to take the lead and let the civilized world know it is now or never on the subject of removing the ongoing and increasing danger of proliferation of radiological weapons. Mr Kissinger went on the nationwide media three days ago and said precisely what I've been preaching for 5 or 6 years now re NK. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 This is news? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Go to NetureiKarta.com. Do your own thinking. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Philli, if you havn't already read "A CHILD OF THE CENTURY" by Ben Hecht and his fund raising efforts for the IRGUN, don't praise the sneak attack by Ben Gurion and his anti-Sephardic ilk on a bunch of heroes trying to establish the beautiful country so many of us aspire to live in. Too bad Abrasha Stavski isn't still around to have a History lesson with you Philli. I won't even comment on Ben Gurion's views of the non-Ashkenasics who he begrudingly let in to work the fields and hang around the phone in case the "Real Jews" might need a little plumbing repair or roof patching. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The "Neturei Karta" or "Guardians Of The City" definitely march to the beat of a different drum. The question is whether or not it is the "RIGHT" drum. Most here would say "wrong drum". But at least they are marching. Some here have never learned to march. To ANY drum, if you get my drift!] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Sounds a little like entrenched fascists passing and administering fascist laws to control fascists. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Huckabee maybe......If you have ever lived in Utah or certain parts of Arizona or Idaho I think you might reconsider. But then what do I know, you may have spent years in all three of the aforementioned places. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 William or Eli, let's hear more from you [and about you]. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I would want to know more about the whole affair but in the mean time it's only allegations as Philli reminds us and I'd tentatively support him for what little that's worth. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Someone must remember something about the altered SS ID card. C'mon, speak up! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Now by re-trying them you realize the possibility now exists that they could be found innocent don't you? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And Philli, could you tell why Toyota calls one model "RAV 4" and why Nissan named one model the "Murano" ? That's been bothering me for a while. Got an answer for that? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I'm glad JTA hasn't taken on the unenviable task of sorting out titles. I assume it uses the title generally conferred on an individual by the bulk of the people in that realm or perhaps by the individual himself. In any case, it is not the job of JTA to hanle it. The forum is open [still] and you handle it with your comments. We'll listen even if we may disagree sometimes. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Israel has one of the best criminal "detaction" units in the world. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Maybe he was ON his way to France to apply for a job. As a street cop! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I'm surprised he wasn't IN France. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I,m not advocating ANYTHING but consult the JDL site and at least read what they're saying! One camera at the back door and one at the front door and then use your heads on the rest of it. Fortunately this is all "Henny Penny proclaiming the sky is falling" because some sources who feel informed report this violence and possible violence is on the decline. Consider History. That's all you need to do' Don't cop out. SURVIVE! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Arkady, I have made a couple or three negative comments regarding your grammar and word order but only after you used the word "stupid" on me. I don't remember the whole affair. Anyway, it wasn't the first time I've been called that. I,m over it at this point and could never stay pissed at anyone who likes sour camel milk. I would appreciate a response on my recipe for cucumber, onion and beet garnish, however. So "nazdrovia" [correct me if that's too far off.] and apparently nobody picked up on "Frunze" huh? No cheating by looking it up, either! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Shaul, you're sounding better and better. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Strong, stiff sentences for EVERYONE who participated or knew about the kidnapping and failed to do the civilized thing of at least an anonymous phone call to the cops. I smell a big wheel's kid here. Just like the hate crime in Palm Springs where a couple of the brats were headed for law school and had a "Ph.D" expert in child development for parents. What a lot of "CYA'ing there was on that. Burn their little NAZI asses whoever they're related to. tThis week's beard and paes pulling fun is next month's pogrom] STOP it NOW! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Bravo! I don't know if we agree on much else but I sure agree with you on this. And to the Jews who still live there and need the tourist money? Move to Israel, re-establish yourself and SURVIVE! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 There have some very serious problems about the physical evidence and the veracity of witnesses in this case for years. This case should be wide open to the public via TV and everyone should be in on this. There are many who were complicit in the camps and a few were inmates. These never get exposed and their lot is to be doubly pitied. I once knew a Ukranian who worked at a camp. He walked into an appliance store in San Diego and the proprietors simultaneously recognized the former guard , called him by his first name and physically attacked him. They all wound up in court over the cost of some dental work and after some cross-accusations of "complicity", the dental repairs were covered and that was the end of it. This was related to me "first person". This man and wife would not, in my opinion, make good witnesses against a party 60 or so years later. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 There is absolutely no excuse [partcularly in a socialist country] for ANY survivor of the Holocaust to be living in poverty. Just their AGE should guarantee them a decent standard of living. They should be FIRST in line for any government assistance. BILLIONS of dollars have been donated out of sympathy for them and they should not be shorted. The beaurocrats and the "fund raisers" flying back and forth to New York on "official business" eat up too much of what the final recipient should be recieving. That these people suffer at this point in the game is disgusting. Maybe that is the problem, it's seen as a "game". A rotten, money making game. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Interesting point. I remember I was rooting for the wrong side on that one. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I wouldn't mind having one of those little condos in the picture. If they'd have me that is. Anyone wanto to go in half with me? Joint tenants. I croak, it's all yours? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 No, Shaul. They all went to MJ's team of consultive, cosmetic surgeons then to Mexicali and had "pointoplasty" done to plane down their heads in one of many, good, reasonably-priced, store front clinics.. Throw in a root canal for another hundred bucks. Such a deal. I've never seen! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Doug, after superficially examining the site, it appears to be a " defensive only" group' Don't think I would want to go up against them. Couldn't expect a surrender. The media card deck has been stacked against them for years. Uphill fight. A site to offer a variety of info apparently. I intend to check it out. Good to hear another side of any story if you indulge in the withering habit of critical, objective thinking. I'll probably be accused of terrorist leanings now and will be reported to the crossing guard or hall monitor. Let's get one thing straight right here and now. I've never been to a meeting, never met a member that I know of and have never bought their books or papers and have never donated. I don't think I'd be thrown out of a meeting either. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 This analogy ain't going to fly. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Sour camel milk? Could we mix it with bleu cheese and salt, roast some mushrooms on a fire and put it on some slices of raw onion, cucumber and beets and have a major zakooski feast? A couple glasses of vodka couldn't hurt either. Those were the days. I assume those attacks took place on Le Conte Drive. You could have walked on up Stone Canyon Road, visited an old friend of mine and got some real help. {JVN; former owner and originator of Volkswagen of America]. He was a team racer with Pedro Rodriguex and John Player for the Ferrari factory in the 50's Good friend of Enzo too. Ah but enough! No more than a whie trash hobby. Not even a sport. You would have a fight on your hands if you told him that! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 It seems like hooking up with the KKK would be taking on an awful lot of useless, heavy, unnecessary baggage that would surely be detrimental. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Any individual, directly involved or not. who is aware of a kidnapp victim being held captive and doesn.t go to the authorities should get about 15 years. If any violence or torture is visited upon the captive,, then try them under the same statute as the principals and sentence them similarly. Some official's kid was probably in on this. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The moment this group of grandchildren of Arrowcross Party thugs crosses the line from general hatred and right-wing, fascist talk and advocates violence, arrest, try and sentence the little sob's to many years of hard labor on a contract basis in a Bulgarian prison. [If convicted] Now that's some "rendition" many could approve of. Hire some Gypsies to "supervise" them. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 A step toward solving this problem might be for ADL to admit that the violent anti-semitic attacks are on the increase instead instead of wishfully thinking it's on the decrease and publicly stating their errant views and perpetuating a false sense of security. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Mr. Goldbarg, I meant "Stuart," not Sruart as I accidentally type. Nothing intentional, sorry. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Will or Sruart, I've just reviewed the past few postings and can't figure out who these two are who claimed to have "worked" for a murderer. Does perusing quotations in the media and news sources in order to be informed of relevant events equal "working " for an organization? Who are these two who were "implying" they had been involved in terrorism against the U.S? Do I hear some not to be taken too seriously ramblings of a mishug here? Hypocrite? What? The word witch came up in a different context and now we have a witch hunt. Bear in mind this is slander from the anonymous. Can somebody help me understand this, please? Close involvement? What the hell? I'm starting to wonder if this "trinity poster of three names" involves perhaps one more party. What's to defend? I guess he has the famous first ammendment I always support. Getting harder now. Oh well. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I always thought the capital was Mecca. Just goes to show you how wrong you can be for a prolonged time. But now I know, thank you very much. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Now that,s two personal attacks. It's even. It's my fault for taking the bait. Just like a hatchery trout........."Snap!!" and I was drawn in. For the sake of sanity .....can we please stop it here and now? PLEASE? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Sometimes when one is looking for some intellectually stimulating reading, one has to decide whether to pursue material vigorously spewed out by a "hater" or some un-imaginative, vaccuous, innane, watered-down crap from some "SELF-HATING' , weak-kneed socialist with a latent, kibbutz mentality. The haters can be interesting and can be creative, at least. The "SELF-HATERS"? Well....about 20 minutes listening to their rap and you've just about heard it all. Sociology class, union meeting, park and rec planning. The same archaic rehash of the failed Marxist sharing their guilt with others. Misery loves company I guess. I was hoping it could be kept impersonal but OCD is a hard one to control. When it takes on sexual overtones it is like shoplifting or voyuerism. One can't easily re-channel one's outlet. When you get that tingle you just have to start pounding those keys. Freud, Jung, Adler or Alexander, all would shrugg and say "vell, itz a case of mental masturbation and the man muzt try to get zum kontrol!" Klonipen, maybe? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Will, a "sane" Muslim man will murder his wife for a late lunch by throwing her out of a fourth floor. There's going to be an interesting ending to this story. I hope we hear it. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Massachusetts?Probably coulda found some Greek accounting firm. [From Salonika, of course.] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Would that be a "half-fast" fast or a "half-assed" fast? Either way this is similar to the Jewish Women's group who did something similar recently. Water only I think. Would that be bottled, gourmet water or tap water? How about some athletic water with potassium and sodium? I agree with the previous comment. Get my attention by dehydrating, spilling acetone 'til you go blind! No water and no food. Nothing! Zilchamundo! And stay away from the news media too. They gorge on the public recognition. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 That would be "Neturei" Karta, if you please. One can piss on another's head and tell him it's lemonaide, too. Say what you will but the "scripture " question deserves a reply. An informed reply. Nobody forgot either. This could be the group who just might be able to get Shalit back too. Oh hell no "y'all" would rather see him languish than accept help from "them." 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And no help from the Manhattan District, huh? [The correct name for the "Project"] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Arkady, I always knew we had more common interests than meet the eye. Personal connections with Rubin and org are better left undiscussed here. "Koomis" is a mildly fermented , drinkable yogurt-type substance made from horse milk. Not bad with a shot of whiskey during morning break out on the steps at Frunze. [Beats Monterey or Middlebury any day!] Gets chilly there. Babayaga? That mythical, old, snaggletoothed, devil personified in the form of an extra ancient Russian Grandmother. A "chorta" if there is such a word. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Stuart, I,ve had many jobs. Some would not be appreciated here and since "personnel" records are generally confidential, I'll keep up that tradition. Since your curiousity has been aroused however, Let,s just say I,ve wandered around from Los Alamos with Norris Bradbury, James Tuck, Thomas Shipman to Berlin [Rudow, Tegelsee, The top floor of the I.G. Farben Building, The 78th S.O.U. in Lichterfelde, the tunnel over to the Russian land line terminal from Karlshorst to Stalingrad {Red Army H Q} to the Alt Glienicke Bridge, saw Rudolph Abel walk across, worked along side Martin and Mitchel, lived at Camp King, knew A. Artukovitch [and Theodore F. Hocke} SR-71 over the Black Sea, 38 degrees 14 minutes in the Chorwon and studied at 1771 N. Eastern Ave, in L.A., have tended the graves at the secret site of Julius and Ethel and so many other mundane things it exhausts my typing skills and memory [both of which are challenged anyway]. But I know a little about NOI, have yet to visit Israel and can't spell worth a damn. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Lowering the waterline in the bay causes ALL boats to float lower. That effects all of us. Chase them into the sea? C'mon, we can come up with better ideas than that! What if they can swim? I jest, Will. I know we are in agreement on this. Details are sometimes better left out. "Sending them down to the sea " is a kind way of expressing it. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Why diminish his description? Some "chap named Hitler"? How about some bastard named Hitler! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 He has ruined too many people for an accounting around here. He will have to handle that with a Higher Authority. He is slick however and don't think he has given up on getting out. That much money sequestered can do a lot. I just hate to see him alone. Bring some "close" friends in for company. Permanently. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Will, you may not know this but the white supremist, prison groups and biker factions developed within the penal system as organized militia to try and combat the deadly combination of NOI staff and NOI inmates killing off whites. Mexicans have traditionally come in "pre-organized" by virtue of their ethnic gang affiliations. Whites being outnumbered by black or brown groups even separately had to orgaize or die. I'm not excusing the white supremists, just explaining their origins. They see left wing , liberal, civil rights active Jews as the enemy. While political correctness just is a specific agenda that cramps free interchange of thought and speech on the outs, it can get one,s ass butchered in jail. Just FYI in case anyone doesn't already know. JDL certainly knows. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Never confuse a "guestimation" for a medical diagnosis or even an arbitrary total summation of a fellow human being. It isn't fair even if a majority of your peers agree with you. Your proclaimed insight on the one hand is belied by your quick scape-goating on the other. Yes, there are many insightful, enlightened and enlightening responses on this site, yours being one. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Nutty as a fruitcake perhaps but until or if he or she is committed, freedom of speech prevails in spite of attempts to stifle it. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The caifornia jail system let NOI members kill a JDL leader. I've mentioned before, NOI is strong amongst staff and inmates in most large U.S. custody facilities. [based on personal observation.] And I can spell California. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Couldn't have said it as well myself. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Last comment? I'm impressed. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 If they are presently and specifically and actively advocating violence, you know just about what I'd do to the bastards. If it's screwing around with past History and convoluted interpretations of events and causes, you are damned correct I'd support their right to say it. I would do nothing without due process in any case and a clear and first hand examination of the facts. Freedom of speech, just like your's and mine right here on this site! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Not much accountability for that much money. A rather casual and callous treatment of donated funds. This will affect donations. If given a choice of a Catholic O'Brien or old Bernie, who would you prefer? The latter choice would have left less due to greater efficiency and supportive associates. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Will, please comment on the paragraph beginning: "Wieder goes on to.....". This seems to be scripturally supported and I've wondered about this for a long time. I've been indirectly in contact with "Guardians Of The City" through mutual associates and I know they are in agreement with Mayor Sieder [Ithink they are....] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Are the claimants [Chabad-Lubavitch] seeking return of the books etc. as part of a larger claim or are Rabbi Menachem Schneerson's materials part of a larger request. If so, I'd separate them out and buy them if nothing else. I think I may have donated to a project in which all of the Rabbi's books and writings were being scanned and printed, I didn't know this much material was in Russia. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 He'll appeal. It's just too early. A little dough has to be re-arranged first. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 "Every Jew a .22". Adequate. [usually] French cops turn their backs when Arabs assault Orthodox on the street and run for the station when cars and busses are torched. What's a bookstore here and there when Jews do it? {except I just couldn't burn a book] An escargot salon might ignite readily with all that butter as an accelerant. Lightly on the garlic and then it could provide the rioters with a little snack at day's end. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The two or three times I've ever responded to Arkady it,s been to compliment him or agree with him. As per my resolution, I don,t plan to engage him since he wouldn't respond to my asking him what "koomis" or "babayaga" means. He probably doesn,t have a Russian dictionary and his experience is not eclectic enough do draw on for the answer. His responses are somewhere between Tamarian and Shaulian anyway and I for one don,t have time for it. The word order and structure is ersatz anyway a la the wild and crazy guy as I,ve said before. I could change my name and return and pretend to save space too. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And Will.....yer right. Nukes not neccessary if we don't wait too long. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I wonder if self-hatred isn,t some kind of racism. If you hate yourself, hate the concept of success and survival of your own kind.........Couldn't that be a form of racism? The word is entirely overused and needs to be separated from the word "racial" and I don't want to "blurr" the definitions any further...just thinking. I always hold my breath and count to three before I utter the damned word. Some people just can't go a minute without using it. It's a cheap accusation anyway. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 It probably just business. If we could identify the parties and "indirect parties" in the said providing, it might need to be re-defined as very, very shameful business. Like the spare landing wheels sold to Iran during the hostage crisis and untold sales to South Africa during apartheid. Sorry but the truth needs to be told to prevent more of the same. I would like to see the personnel files for workers at Irans reactor facility too. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I would like to respond to that comment but in keeping with my resolution to not make comments irrelevant to the article, I'll pass. I get close to the line sometimes and this is one of those times. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The mayor appointing his rescuer as police chief is as Arkady says. A simple payback for saving his life. This is much more obligatory in the Hispanic world. The social ramifications of failing to do it would possibly result in much less "effort" being expended in the next kidnapping. The fact of a bad record with a federal agency would be more of a recommendation than a black -mark since in SA municipal, state and feds are more in competition than cooperation. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 "Just following orders..." Only to a Nazi and some who just can't do anything without an attendant over them can use "orders" as an excuse for killing people. When I was in basic training all we ever heard was "if an OFFICER tells you to do it, you do it and he will take the final responsibility." Then in a lower tone of voice and with much less emphasis, "as long as it's a LAWFUL order, that is. Who would consider summarily executing an idividual "lawful"? A Nazi, of course. I talked to Germans all over from Berlin to Bremen and they mostly believed that an "order" was all it took to do anything and in so doing you were a "good German" deserving of praise for efficiency and patriotism. It made me sick then and it makes me sick now. They just didn't seem to to understand the concept of the "individual" or individual responsibility. I might add with some trepidation that I live in a German farming community now and these are the fourth generation of German immigrants who have rarely gone out of the county more than a few times and there is a palpable residue of that rock hard unacceptance of the individual who speaks out, comments or does anything in a different way. That is how many of them operate and that is why they feel put upon when brought up on charges at a later date. To them "any" order was lawful. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 insert "law' in front of requiring....... 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Any un-stable government is an enemy to the investment in that country. Invest if you care to but a requiring your investment counselor to inform you of your's money's destination is a good thing. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I could envision a woman, Jewish or not, being kidnapped by a Muslim man prior to or even during a wedding or during the reception shortly after the wedding but not after the first night. In fact, she would have to have a very, very large amount of jewelry and a lot of assets to get any Muslim man to befriend her after the wedding night. There has to be a whole lot more to this story. Too bad Oday and Koosay aren,t still with us. They were experts at the "prior to wedding" kidnapping. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Tear down the U.N. not the fence. Make the fence taller, longer and thicker. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Shaul, the irony is that we didn.t steal it. WE WENT TO WAR WITH MEXICO AFTER THEY INVITED SETTLERS IN AND THEN TREATED THEM LIKE SECOND CLASS CITIZENS AND RED-HAIRED STEPCHILDREN AND REQUIRED THEM TO CONVERT TO CATHOLICISM. We won the damn war and bought in settlement from Santa Ana. That he stole the money is not our fault. They stole it from the Indians previously anyway. Where did you go to school? In the San Fernando Valley? Teachers from Cal. State Dominguez? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Well James "Emma Lazarus" Hovland, that invitation was not extended by an elected representative of the American public,, Ms Lazarus was a congregant of the Spanish And Portuguese Synagogue in N,Y, and was simply practising here freedom of speech. Now I am practising mine and I'm saying "too much of a good thing" and as a practical matter we now screen out the tired, homeless and huddled in favor of the well healed who retains his former citizenship and procedes to bleed the country in many cases. A new business with a SBA loan and workers posing as family members becoming "unified" and the last American worker is fired after the new owner locates the light switches and shutoff valves. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 If any Palestinians are going to be settled here, it should be Christian Palesrinians. They are the ones who are suffering the most, would be less likely to blow us up with child launched bombs and shrapnel and would not take their pubescent daughters back to Moslem physicians to do the operation that would prepare them to be "good" wives and daughters while village boys spectate and cheer them on. Actually, they would not do this in any case. [The Christians that is], It is seldom the new arrivals cause much trouble anyway,, It is the second and third generation youth who get exposed to society as native born but retain enough of their parents former cultural biases that they develope ambivolent loyalties and become problem citizens. France, Germany and the U,S, would be cases in point, Do I need to mention the particular ethnic groups? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I admit I havn"t kept kept up with Lieberman's career to as large an extent as I should to comment but I can envision a couple of future scenarios in which he could play a significant if not heroic role. Knowing what little I know at this point, he has my support anyway. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 "Inappropriate". 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Ibappropriate comment on my part. Sorry. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Apt analogy, Will. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 As an outsider looking in, it all appears to be a turf war and squabbling over "whose got the authority." Standards appear to take second place. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 n second thought and after thinking it over, I still think it,s a good idea. I,m too old to move and they wouldn,t have me anyway. Too mean. But if I did move there, I would live out in the desert and eat fruit and drink well water and have an "electronic-frei" home. Well.....maybe a good radio. But why dream? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 If Gaza had been kept and dealt with properly, none of this would be happening. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 A financial settlement cheapens the memory of the depsrted. A soldier ordered to exhume a body could be expected to react in many defensive ways. Laughter would be more of an attempt to compensate for discomfort than simple disrespect. A doctor can usually be located to support a claim headed for court or a settlement. I want to see the ethics of M. Jackson"s cosmetic surgery looked into. [even if it doesn't relate to the article at hand.] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Don't ask and don't tell. Just do it! Nobody needs to ask permission to survive. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Welll....Does he? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 If these allegations turn out to be factual, they should be dealt with in a manner to PREVENT it from happening again! To discourage is not enough. Americans are sometimes seen from across the ocean as "fat and ripe for the picking." We a re generous to a fault and need to be more careful. These junior "bernies" need to be where he is now. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Sad, sad, sad this hate-filled infighting. Doubly sad when it gets this personal at such a high level of policy making individuals. Bad for the entire community. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Will and shirull, of course you are both correct! All I,m saying is that more babies means a stronger Israel. Mr. Epstein,s article gets into more than I can actually handle in one sitting. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Who is typified by international fuzboll? That's a class game where win or lose pipe, bottle and club weilding punks burn cars, beat each other over the head and destroy valuable property. Do you prefer that to Formula1 racing? Even NASCAR is more civilized than soccer. Paul Newman might kick your butt, too. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Eat "and" consume is only slightly redundant. My errors are becoming more redundant too. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The majority of the workers should come from the group that plans to eat consume the majority of the chickens. That;s fair isn't it? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Mr. Epstein, if Jews in Israel "...conceive of themselves as needing to retain political control" as you say, they had better "conceive" some babies too if they want the conception to become a reality. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Dat right and massa have some DEEP pockets! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I'd sure like to have just one of those coins. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I thought I was "Poindexter'. Could there be more than one? Good grief, Charlie Brown, I've turned into a "serial Poindexter!" 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Excellent strategy on Netanyahu's part. He appears as a fair and approachable party wishing to engage and come to a fair solution. But we know the other side will never agree to the legitimacy or existance of a Jewish State, never agree on defensible borders and never agree to demilitarize anything. So unless someones gives, where is the change? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 What if she's pregnant, unmarried and on her way to Las Vegas with a 90 year old man in his Gulf Stream Three to get married and get his heart medicine refilled [no relatives living] and no pre-nup? Mazal Tov!!! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Stetsko and Bandera might show up too. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 If an Arab or Moslem country had taken him in as a child and gotten him out of the camp maybe he would not have taken the unfortunate route we see him on. By the way, what ever happened to that American who married the king of Jordan? Don't hear much about her any more. Never did actually. Maybe she could arrange for a few unhappy Gaza residents to move to Jordan. Or not. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Harry Bridges lied about being a member of the communist Party on his citizenship documents too but of course he had the ILWU behind him and Gus Hall and that bunch from "Red Hill" in L.A. There he was running the docks on the West coast and loading ammo on the ships for our troops in NK and SK. Such a deal. But not for us. And spare me the Supreme Court details. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The case of Demjanuk will contually be discussed in the USA. It his somewhat of a historical event and some of us are interested from that standpoint. There were questions from the start about the veracity of witnesses and some ID documents were highly suspect. On top of that, we Americans can be very strange about "discussing " things. So damn many of us have died here and around the world in support of the right of free speech for others as well as our own citizens we just tend to talk and talk and discuss and discuss. You see, we feel like it is a "good" thing to do and not just based on nothing else "to do". Do you follow me Phili? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 What's to say? Congratulations? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I found Mr. Friedman's comments Mr. H. I can see why you are unable to locate them. They are not flattering to you. Find "Israel Calls Amnesty Report Biased" on 07/02/09 and the comments of Mr. Friedman at 01:42. Curiously, they follow a comment by you responding to another "sniper" who takes accurate aim at you and never misses. Come now, you read the comments and can't bring yourself to reply. But I'll assume you might have missed it. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Would anyone else who read the long and brilliant posting about political correctness by the "disappeared" party referred to in sentence number four in my post previous to this current one please explain to me how a person's comments suddenly can no longer be found? This has happened to me before and I'd like to figure out what it involves. Is it based on complaints by another individual or the editor or what? I know this is a privately owned entity and has the right to edit anyone but what are the policies? Please, someone "new" with a fresh point of view. Please. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Who said anything about a truce? I want an end of the war. A truce is what we have with NK and it don't work. You actually didn't read Mr. Friedman's comments? Your loss. They were good. I will make my own rules for myself thanks. When you are the first to post, any dissenting view is racist, abusive or sniping etc. Why not just drop the interchange between the two of us? Comment on anything you want but why respond to me? You know I never make a point anyway so why bother? If I'm seen as a racist it will never improve anyway so why bother? This is your getoff and you don't want to let it go. It seems like you get more negative responses than I do but I'm not concerned with that and not counting. If I thought your feelings were representative of how people view me on here I would have exited long ago. We could take a poll but you'd probably call in support from ACORN and the fix would be in. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 If these demonstrations were "less" violent than those previous ones, how violent were they and who was the violence directed toward? The parking lot patrons or the "non-Jews" working there? Is the problem connected with the competing ultra owned parking lot competition for parking patrons or the Sabath issue? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Will, the air is a little challenging during planting season as you say but I compensated by drinking more Bier. Remember to wash those vegetables too. Didn't I leave myself open by saying I drink beer? I know what's coming now. And it'll be from the "green" tea drinker. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 We can have it both ways. Move and hunt them down. Take a quality of life reduction, move and then handle it from a distance while we still have some life to handle it with. I would rather mop floors in Israel, re-establish myself and my family and forget the "better" job or circumstances in a perpetually hostile country. There are always the disloyal who will sell us their partners in crime for a few dollars. Pick them up on the beach and haul them away. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Chicken ------ and everyone knows it. Did you respond to Mr. Leopoldo Friedman's post? Hardly. It is too difficult to respond to your tiresome, circular, evasive arguing. Always dodging the real point and on and on. How much would you have to contribute if you dropped the crap and stuck to the articles JTA provides. You are a bore and immature. Well indoctrinated but short on original thought. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Show me in the Scriptues where a Yarmulke is mentioned. It's tradition. No blurring. Just comparing articles some feel they need for religious practise. Didn,t mention Kashrut butchering for food. Just religious items for worship including sacrifice. Don,t particularly like animal killing for food, or like sacrifice. I leave the butchering for others who do it for wages to be SOLD by others. Sacrifice? A disgusting practise of perverted sexual gratification similar to bull fighting, dog fighting and gathering around a gallows to see someone executed. Don,t believe in capital punishment either. Still ignoring the offer to spare the public mutual insults? Getting of on all of it perhaps? I,m willing to "abstain". You? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Sounds good to me. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And on the blood libel topic? What ? You're getting tired of it? Oh, no! Anything but a tired Ari! We just can't have you getting "tired." Why that could affect your objectivity and we don't want that to happen. So many are entertained by your humor and enlightened by your wisdom you must rest! A little vacation to "Romania" might be in order you think? How about Bucharest or Maybe Ploesti? It's all very modern there in the failed socialist worker's paradise. If you get sick while yer there, just avail yourself of the remnants of "Modern Marxian Medicine and then return to all full of vim and vigor [and BS] to help us understand the world situation from your personal point of view[[which of course is the only proper one] Do we have a deal yet or are you still meditating? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The jail personnel need to be more sensitive to the religious needs of the inmates. The taxpayers in California need to rise to this problem of providing all individuals with whatever their particular faith requires. Ganga for Rastafarians, chickens and knives for Santa Rians from Puerto Rico [ for the "humane" throat-slit during the sacrifice}, goats and more knives for Moslems to do the same "humane" throat slit during religious sacrifices and a few rattlesnakes for the "snake handlers" from Jolla, North Carolina. The court could hire [or appoint ] a "keeper of religious accoutrements" and keep all the cutlery and livestock in a special area so they could await their religious fate. Yessir. It's a right to practise your religion you know. No room for reality here. Having said all this, I will add that the yarmulke has to be be safer than many of the clothing items worn by more hardened inmates in Cal, prisons. Remember the steel " natural rakes"? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Americans use surgical gloves when passing out plastic bagged korans in Gitmo. Can't have any nasty infidel skin touching The Book can we. Probably we could use the left or right hand as long as they are gloved. The accusation was made that American soldiers sent a Koran down the toilet and the left wing apologists became left wing apoplectics a couple years ago. I guess we have "snake handing churches" in North Carolina too but I doubt if they care if you have gloves on if when passing out the snakes. Organized religion sure can be fun, can,t it? There probably is enough fanatacism to be found amongst all religions. I like to stay away from it when I can. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 A little "paprikash" and those injured will be "good as new" and just as troublesome. Sell the business and move. Does anyone think a little jail time will change this trend of behavior? Well, heck, I thought they were "disbanded" by the court. Didn,t take them long to "band up" again did it? Violence in the Ukraine is more spontaneous and gang oriented. Hungary? A growing wing of a growing political atmosphere. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 After living in Cleveland since 1952, I would appreciate the change of scenery. I would take Berlin over Munchen but the air is pretty good in both places. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 So my conclusions are correct but just "outdated?" Little paranoid, are we? How about my offer to put it to rest between you and I for the benefit of the group? That's the real point that would clear up all the "problems" you are having with me? Or would you rather be the "nine-year old princess" at her birthday party and keep up your bitching? Did you even see the word "deal?" How about it Mr. Coucescu? Is it a deal? Just answer that one question? Just that one? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Typo, I meant ".308" not "398." Sorry. You are aware of the great service the poor old ".303 Enfield" gave in the desert in 1947 are you not? Many myths abound in the field of weapons. I repeat, for the semi-trained civilian, adequate but not intimidating, reliable, accurate, easy to operate, easy to service. [not mega-expensive, either] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Suart, the model 870 12 guage, pump Remington with double 0 Buck is absolutely sufficient for the semi-trained defender up to about 60 or so yards. East to load, ultra simple and 8 shots. I don't recommend the 1903 Springfield for anything. A modern, bolt action 30.06 once again is sufficient for out to 400 yards for the mildly trained but mature enough to " squeeze" off a round instead of "spraying" with a semi-auto or G-d forbid a fully automatic rifle or shorter assault rife accurate to maybe 200 yards on full. 308 versus '06 difference is academic. Both ammos are plentiful and effective. The .398 is a "NATO" adopted caliber and hence, a second choice for me. A bolt action Barrett will reach out about a thousand yards for the skilled but is little more effective than the previously mentioned in the hands of the average marksman. The next time you do any handloading please be aware that any hollow point projectile loses some accurracy and is abbsolutely never used in competition-precision shooting and wouldn't used by a sniper for the same reason. We're arming a bunch of teenaged civilians here and over-arming them would be as big a mistake [ perhaps ] as underarming them. But at any rate, you are strong enough on nomenclature that you are probaby adequate with a weapon. You may be "shooting from the hip" in any case and if someday we meet on the range, the temperature and humidity is right and the wind is zero, I'd be happy to compete against you with a Model '70 pre 64, bull-barrelled, '06 and a box of factory-loaed 180 grained ' Match Ammunition" Scope for me, your choice of sights. But then maybe you.re just showing off and being facetious about all that unnecessary firepower. I'd say you are a reserve officer and probably are assigned to training somewhere in addition to your civilian proffession. For backup? Will, of course. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Why don,t you comment on the practise of tonic injections and using the same needle on multiple patients with blood from deceadants instead of your chronic personal criticism of me? Focus on the points, ok? You used to say I made "point-free" rants. There are three here to comment on. I know about the Matzoh blood libel. I don't see any connection with that and blood transfusions. I doubt if anyone else does either. Have you ever seen any news coverage of nurseries in "Romania" early in the HIV crisis? Didn't you see the babies lined up like cor wood in narrow cribs? Don't you remember the sad cases of so many people adopting babies from Roumania only to have them turn out to be HIV positive? Just because you find the subject uncomfortable or are not informed, it doesn.t support your calling someone a racist. Here's a point I'd appreciate your responding to, how about if neither of us ever respond to the other's comments ever again after clearing this blood transfusion thing up? I would be happy to do my best to stick to that. Deal? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 One has history, facts and has talked with survivors and learned. The other has seen the truth, denies it and resorts to PC and platitudes. Everybody has the freedom to choose. [but not neccessarily the right to say it, huh?] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Freedom of expression is just that. It,s not freedom to "repress". To express is not to repress. It's repression when you don't agree with the speech, huh? I agree with Michael, some people, and not only Europeans, just don,t get it. Over and over and you just don't get it, 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 But have you learned the difference between "blood transfusion" and "blood libel"? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Leopold Friedman, if you were "Leopolda" I think I would propose to you. Don't disappear now. Continue. Your's was a class in History AND psychology. Thank you. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Did I just write " gand"? I sure did but I meant "GANG" not gand. There goes what little credibility I had. [none according to some] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 If Israel could compress it's entire population into a ten square foot plot of land and fly a barely macroscopic flag the gand would still be threatening to "push them into the sea" or destroy in some way. The moral of this crude story? EXpand the borders and sit on and control MORE land. In the Japanese game of "go" or the Korean game of "paduke" it,s all about who has the most territory when the final score is calculated. There is no talk of who owned it or who owns it. If you,ve GOT it, it's yours and you win. This simple game reflects most Eastern foreign policy today. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 "Time" for what Arkady? Your subtle use of innuendo causes me to applaud your use of the Enlish language. Can you please tell me what "Babayaga" means? How about "Koomis"? I just had a cup of it. It's hard to find around here. Now c'mon, I,m not joking. I'm not joking. Tell me if you know. Gotta get off the net now. Late. Sorry. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Disbanded? Now they're underground and invisible. Not gone, though. Maybe you thought the Arrow Cross Party was finished in 1945. Wasn't finished then and ain.t finished now. It was operating as an "Athletic Club " club in South Gate, California in 1964 and meeting in a restaraunt near Palm Springs in the 90's. The president of one Magyar club said of me "He must be KGB because he's too young to be a Nazi.". Sorry Lazlo, neither. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Will, I wasn't referring to marriage . Just custody and placement. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Michael had Jehova's Witnesses and Nation Of Islam relatives. Those two choices or the incubator. I would sit in chambers with each child individually and discuss their wants and then make the decision on "what is best for the children". Keeping yhem together would also be of utmost importance and I would keep the case open and active for 30 day reviews for the first year and quarterly thereafter. An admonition would be made that "the court will be carefully evaluating the conduct of ALL parties involved". A seasoned probation officer would be assigned to supervise with an oppen line of communication to me. I would then drive out to Nikola's and have some kalimari or grilled abalone. {except that is not allowed for me. But if it were....] No scheisters now unless you have juvenile court experience enough to know what you are talking about. No "Wise Birds" either. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Right on, Terry! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 "Pretty much racist"? Which ones are and which ones are not? Or is each one "sorta racist"? Why not comment on the issue and refrain from calling everyone a racist or evangelical Christian! To be fair you usually reserve that Christian accusation for the one who puts you in your place and makes a fool of you. It's about time for you to itemize and number each part of each comment and really offer no rebuttal but just a personal attack. It is kind of you to let us know how poorly a thought can be convoluted. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 When I originally commented on this article and was called a racist by Ari the "hooka head", I prefaced with "if this proves to be true" in the manner of JTA's saying "may be" true and changing to "sale of Jewish bones likely false", Well.....is it "true" or "false" JTA? And Hooka, have you learned the difference between mass blood transfusions with the same needle and blood libel yet? Smoke that hash with your friends Mr. H, think more objectively, post more clearly and keep that psuedonym, coward. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 She's wrong for the job and the firefighters are right for the job. It is so obvious. I hope she doesn,t get on the Court. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Medal of Honor? Bravery? You should have spent an hour with my departed friend Mitchel Paige. Private to colonel and PRESIDENT of the Medal Of Honor Society. Los Angeles isn't that far from Rancho Mirage. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 To be sure, Jews have a long history of labor organization in general and in aiding the Jews in the clothing industry. And that'd how it should be. The sweating worker's history of being exploited Jews and organized by activist Jews is no more or less Jewish than the owners of the factories. Ladies Garment Worker's Union steering the workers to paradise by communists whose comrades steered 100 million [more or less] to their deaths in the rest of the world deserves no recognition on the 4th of July and it's collective lefties should stay indoors and repent on the birthday of the country that could have and may still better this rotten excuse for a world civilization we live in. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Post a minimum of two mature guards. One with a pump Remington and one with a scoped '06. 24---7. Dogs inside and outside. Too much for you Mr. law prof and Mr. H? Good. No help wanted. Stay in town, get a job in a museum or library.Will, wanta help on this? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Wyman, public celebration of Lithuanian culture and history seldom even acknowledges the present or prior existance of Jews or Judaism. It,s like it was never there. I wouldn't hold my breath or go on much of a fast waiting for much Lithuanian cooperation. Thanks for your interest and great effort however. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Determine the boundaries in "Numbers 34", build a wall around that, export the "labor", do our own meanial labor and defend THAT wall! And export anyone else who would resist the plan. Send the self-haters to Moldova, Ukraine, Bulgaria, Berlin and Hungary. There they could get some hands on assistance with their self-hatred and some genuine catharsis. Russia, Hugo Chaves land, Yemen, Algeria and Iraq. The 36'000 in Iran seem to be happy enough and probably wouldn.t welcome any trouble-making landsmen to screw up the gig they have going. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Thanks for that "Abdul". 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Like I said before Mr. H.m it's hard to see where one's shoes are when you're on the other end of a long distance phone call. You have to have an over-active imagination to find an insult here. I would say it was more a failed attempt by handlers to present the pres as casual, relaxed, in control and "super-cool". 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Stealing money and goods is bad enough. The real thievery is the stealing of golden concepts and ideals like human freedom, justice and truth. When an organization that espouses these treasures twists the facts with subtle emphasis on their own agenda and backpaging the other version of the argument, what do we have? Left wing fascism? Perhaps. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I hope the prize for this guy includes a flak-jacket a Glock and a Walther. He'll need them. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Why did the complaint say "loud JEWISH' music? Loud "music" should have been sufficient . If they had been playing loud and stirring heavy metal maybe nothing would have been said. Now a little Bismarkian, military march number would have gotten a more positive response. {nothing like an oompa band, a little schnapps and some lederhosen to get 'em going don,t ya know]. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Moldovans apparently are carrying on the beard and paes pulling traditions of their Cossack greatgrandparents of the past. For the sake of reason, "MOVE OUT!!!" Take your children and go. A couple of wars a Holacaust and transforming their countries into stone age status and these pogrom building savages have learned nothing! Now do you think you can live among them and "repair" things? Get away while you can. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 This statement by Merkel was her attempt at keeping the bombs from going off in the discos, subways and Schnell Imbisses in Berlin. It might accomplish that. You can.t be too "Jew friendly" in an Arab neighborhood ya know. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 This positive move couldn,t have taken place without the knowledge and approval of the Vatican. Anyone care to try and put a negative spin on this and blame that "German Pope"? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Will, do you see a parallel with the fires in California? All it takes is a road flare out the window of a moving car when the temperature-humidity index is high. If they ever catch them they,ll probably get community service with the Forestry Department. That,ll teach them a lesson! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 On the contrary. Many, many trips to New York, Israel, many plane tickets, many per diem payouts, many crdit card expenditures and many "experts" on the two payrolls. Otherwise you're right, "much to do about nothing." And we pay taxes for this? Could all this lead to bankruptcy or are we already there? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The shooting was oviously so eggregious that only sarcasm and humor are available to me. Now if you think I,m excusing it by not stating the obvious, you can't understand me. I know my my style of commenting is above some due to my convoluted sentence structure. Restating the obvious "It doesn't matter if the people are in Israel or the U.S., that dictum holds true." makes it sound like nobody has figured it out yet. Most of us have figured it out but how to implement it? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Why don't you comment on the artcles even in your innane way and forget about others? You spoil the whole atmosphere. You make my comment about dirty needles sound like an accusation of "well poisoning during the black plague." Now that was simple antisemitism. My "windups" {what the hell is a windup exactly?] as you say just don't agree with you. Is your name "Hakaceccu" by ant chance? You seem to have this thing about "Romania" as you spell it. It's "Roumania" to me and always will be. Your's truly, Leland the secret arab trouble maker. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 That comment of mine regarding tonic injections for babies is as common as can be in Russia as well as Romania, Bulgaria and several other Eastern countries. But you are the one who thinks The Czech Reoublic is an Eastern European country. I called it to your attention that it in Central Europe and you've had a burr under your saddle ever since. My swipe at piss poor medical procedures and institutions that divertr one time needles to the drug-black market and then crosscontaminate babies is hardly racist. But you are always seeing a bigot or racist behind every tree. Just you can get the point. Only you. It is people like you who reduce this forum to useless bickering. You sttick your neck out and someone will always be around to take a whack at you. Why do you repeat verbatim other's postings? That doesn't prove your point. It's tedious. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Of course! But that's too easy and too logical. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 They had to have a survey to figure that out? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Not a bad idea. Let their subsistance check be based on class participation and achievement. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 That's the most realistic plan I've heard in a while. [And happy birthday to your daughter too} 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Naomi, I used to sit with a famous Rabbi in a large city at a table on the edge of the sidewalk where he used to face the oncoming pedestrians. He was part of a famous "outreach to Jews" program. I drank coffee and observed. Now this Rabbi could pick Jews out of the crowd, engage them, and begin to "pull them back into the fold" so to speak. They had no distinguishing clothing, no national flags or anything to indicate their "Jewishness". He could see it and never miss. He was rebuffed frequently but never wrong on the ID. I can only assume he "saw" something. You figure it out Naomi. And you know damn well what I'm referring to. He wasn't a Christian Jew either. Orthodox, fresh from Brooklyn. It is you who missed the point. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Maybe the officer said shoot him in the "put" and the private just "thought" he said "foot". The officer may have grown up in Germany and had a bad experience with a "Putzfrau" which caused a lingering animosity. He also may have said "shoot him in the groin" and that led to the confusion. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Ari, how do you get "Blood Libel" out of blood transfusion? Me a racist? Ask a few Gypsies if Leland or Romania is more racist. Sometimes you can come up with a fairly intelligent comment and then other times you march with the self hating old "Wise T.rd" and the "Crap head". You'll probably be calling me an Arab agent provocatuer in your next posting. I confess...I'm a Druze in drag. Are you happy now? You should change your name to "Ari Happy". Or R.U. Happy. Anything but your real name coward. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Too bad old Simon didn't have his cousin Lauren Bacall with him. No particular reason for saying that, however. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The number of treyf dogs anyone eats with whoever in whatever location won't determine whether or not a two state situation ever comes into existance. I would bear in mind that to many voting Americans the "Fourth" is a prideful event and shouldn't be disrespected too much when it relates to a country that sends a lot of aid money and "loan guarantees" to the disrespecting country. Hot dogs aren,t that big a thing anyway. It should be apple pie [not strudel] and if you don't like it, stay home and eat whatever the hell your heart desires. Perhaps a boiled lemon. The correct thing might be to close the embassy, cut the aid off and let the IDF handle everything. But are we ready for that? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The way I read the article the "military prosecutor" was told by the "Supreme Court" to file stronger charges. Both parties sound pretty governmentish to me. The original charges must have been laughably light or JTA would have included them in the article. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 How does the media describe a recent robbery suspect in Israel? Does the term "Arab" ever come up? Falasha? Hair or hat description? Goyish tourist? Hmmmm......... 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Once again, we agree. Wouldn,t it be ironic if the guy is caught, convicted and found to be..........well, you know...Jewish? Where would the apology go? The paper? The witness? The perpetrator? Who? In Los Angeles when a crime hits the radio or the six o:clock news and several witnesses are interviewed and the description is edited out, you can usually assume the police report will include the term "black or African-American." If they are described as white or hispanic they probably are. Here's the problem, however. If it goes quickly out on the media as a "black orAA", the cops will stop all the blacks in the near vicinity, possibly make an arrest, only to have it thrown out of court and get sued for an arrest based solely on color. As you say, put the most accurate description out and forget the PC crap. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Take them in or don't take them in but don't cause them to languish in "camps" and stall them. The truth is there is a lot of racial backlash in Israel and they don't get much more than ghettoization and public assistance upon arrival. [and a disproportionately high crime rate]. Yet listen to the bitching when Brazilian Anusim knock at the door. Double standard rears it's ugly head again. Maybe the could form the "Falash Fire Department" in the Connecticut style and they could all be employed that way. What!! Unqualified?? Don't you dare say that! Oh yes now it DOES get complicated. "Wisely" said Mr. Wiseman. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 You can talk it to death, pontificate, parse, BS or do whatever you want but fair is fair and it doesn't take a "legal" mind to see it. Children on the playground recognize "fair" when they see it and we all do. If you come from a subculture where your peers fawn over a particular issue or in this case ethnic, you still have to insure the value of the individual and his talents in civil service. Society loses when the system is tilted toward the minority group du jour. This what the "wise" types do. Case in point; NCJW claims "it makes it more difficult for women and minorities to compete in the workplace." Well, I hope to hell it does discriminate against anyone who can't pass a relevant test about water flow, pressure levels, chemistry of toxic materials, physics of collapse probability in structures etc. Add to that the ability to put an injured fireman over your shoulder and descend a ladder for three stories. The one you can,t do if you can't "memorize" material and the other you can,t do if you're a 90 pound Asian in San Francisco. Play around with the facts, insert your own specialized brand of politics and racism and you only make a fool of yourself. Not too "wise" I'd say. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Well.....I guess I could refer to myself as a "Wise Ass", be fairly accurate, elicit widespread agreement, and need not be "too" embarrassed. {Don't everyone agree all at once.} 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Mr. H., sounds like you're saying "landsmannschaft" trumps reason. Maybe. Unfortunately it permeates most groups whatever the common denominator is. Race, religion, beer brand, ethnicity. Objectivity absolutely must be explained in our schools along with the skill of critical thinking. Without these prejudice, cheating, lying, scamming, leading voters around like sheep......all of it becomes easier. History must be taught accurately and honestly [I daresay "objectively"] and the truth will win out. Otherwise we are lost. Wise? Wise? How unverschamt to apply that to one's self. It embarrasses me to see someone else do it. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 If it cost $800 thousand dollars to research one stolen painting, there may be more stealing than that which acquired the artwork in the first place. And people donate money to have it spent this way? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 This is disgusting if it proves to be true. These are the med students in a country where the deceased are drained of their blood and babies are blood typed and then given "tonic" shots in the nursery with the same horse needle. This might save them ten or so years of head-banging and being wrapped like burritos and lined up like sardines to languish in bed all day long. The lucky ones die early with Hep or HIV. So does it surprise you if they sell human bones? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Cancel all trips to France.. Divest [on a personal basis} and let them know Jews are concerned enough to neither spend nor make money with them. Teach them a lesson. Everybody rags on the Poles for complicity in the Second War, this is worse because apparently this French prosecutor feels a slap on the wrist is sufficient. Nothing less than life when you murder and use torture. Throw the whole sickening bunch of them so far back into the Bastille they will need to have air pumped in for them. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 John Q. Very, very astute. And with this kind of public record for all to examine, and with the particular individuals involved, it will be an uphill climb to explain it to the shallow minded who may have no education, feel punished by civil rights legislation or have been to a university where a single agenda curriculum exiisted and hate speech inhibitions have reduced critical thinking skills. The ethnicity and religion of the judge who presided this time is insignificant but if he get's it overturned or "released pending", I sure hope the judge ain't a Jew. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Lawrence, he didn,t get "life," he got 150 years. When the appeal is filed, it will argue that that was "cruel, unusual, unrealistic" or some such. It is unrealistic because he can,t live that long. Therefore, there will be an excuse to revisit the whole thing. He also will get another lawyer and claim the first didn,t represent him properly. That will be based on "he let me plead guilty and they gave 150 years. What kind of representation was that?" Damn clever representation I'd say. And of course, hunt down others involved. [Just don,t go past relatives and partner-employees though} With the amount of money involved, this thing could have "very widespread" tentacles. Could get political if it hasn,t already. Sequestered assets are easier to find now [damn Swiss] but still difficult. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Los Angeles County Civil Service threw out written promotional examinations in the 1960's and came up with something called an "appraisal of promotability." A subjective "opinion" by a board was weighted anywhere from five percent to one hundred percent of an applicants total score. The more prepared and informed candidate was put behind the individual whose cultural experience was termed to be more valuable. The felon or dropout was rewarded and the achiever was denied. All this under the tent of politically agendized "affirmative action." The reason was to end run around the court action brought by minority groups. {black} The County fell into disarray, the qualified applicants [black and white] went elsewhere, the tax payer was cheated and the state is in bankruptcy and ruin. All this similar to the plight of the Connecticut fire department. Sotomayor ruled incorrectly on this. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Allowed maybe but wholly discouraged beyond a reasonable measure. [in my opinion] It also depends in large measure where you reside and if you have the wherewithall to travel. I know about Orthodox conversion and the alternative "progressive" conversion. I'm glad you can all be so sure of yourselves. I can read and I know what scripture says. I'm still somewhat conflicted. Call me a "rockhead" [or a knucklehead}. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 It has been written that in 1313 BCE some large group left Egypt for Canaan. It is an allegation that perhaps they drafted some valuables into their possession prior to departure. I hope the statute of limitations is up on that. No need to go to trial now. What would the interst be on that? Of course I'm being facetious and you should know that by now. Consider it though. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And of course I meant "psychiatric" treatment. I need spelling remediation too. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Welll.... it's been a long day. Agree or disagree? Your's is one opinion I seriously consider. I always want to hear yours. I also await Mr. Eizenstat's. Won't hold my breath though while waiting. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The MJ estate should sue the quacks who did the cosmetic surgery. [most of them,anyway] The guy obviously had an obsessive-compulsive problem with his appearance and needed pschiatric treatment. Just because he had the money and requested the treatment is no excuse for doing it. He was an attractive young man prior to the treatment and ANY jury would award him a recovery and most boards of medical quality assurance would be hard pressed not to take disciplinary action [with some] of the treating physicians. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 A university is where one should expect to hear comments that are " out of the bounds of accepted SPEECH. "Behavior"? That confuses me. Did he "do" something or "say" something out of accepted bounds? His speech and political views would probably be somewhat bland in comparison to what one would hear at U. Of Cal. Irvine. Anyway, let's hear it ALL and make up our own minds. When in doubt,, students...ask another prof or two and hear the whole thing. You should be insulted and sue for a tuition refund if your school provides you with anything less. Or? Maybe re-enroll in a good vocational program and get a "certificate" that would get you a good paying job. Proffessions are slightly over rated anyway, in my humble opinion. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Mr. Eizenstat, "too much money for speakers, plane tickets and fancy buffets"? I've been saying that for awhile and get snide responses for so doing. I agree with you, however. Restitution has become an industry and "recovery agents" que up for the action. It is a genuine shame and an insult to the survivors and their departed companions. This is the time "business as usual" should not be. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And you KNOW I meant "homicide" and not homide. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Without regard for the details, I just don,t like a statesman, diplomat, or politician [take your pick] sticking his or her nose into someone elses internal policy. Governments should butt out of other people's business. Religions too. Jews should concern themselves with uniting themselves in some fashion and forget the Catholic Church. The Popes meddling I,m not aware of enough to comment. I don,t need to hear about Pius the Twelveth either. Heard it already too many times. Heard about the Christ homide too. Don't need anymore of it. I probably should mind my own business and stay out of here too. That however, would provide too much satisfaction for too many. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Gino, ever heard of sarcasm or satire? Sometimes a subject just doesn,t deserve a cogent comment. Which causes me to wonder why I responded to your posting. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Someday there will be enough crappy diapers hurled into the sky that the sun will be blotted out and it will be a brown and white solar eclipse. I don't know if it would cause much political change. It would possibly put some "change" into the pockets of car-wash owners. Or not. Sorry, I couldn't resist. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Only one problem Mr. H., The Czech Republic is not an Eastern European country. It's a "central" European country. Since I was only commenting on it, you and I agree 0 on this rare instance. Not "largely", completely. [it may never happen again. who knows?] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Well.... money talks unfortunately and I have yet to see the race, religion, ethnic or political party that is immune to it's siren call. Have you? A lot of people have a price. Some are expensive and others run a bargain basement sale at all times and a free beer, gallon of gas or a pack of smokes and you've got 'em. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 They might have "made" their money running charities. Who cares how they lost it? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Because it's another one of too many high profile fund raising sympathy charities with mega-paid proffessionals who swing a lot of weight and have a lot of imbedded political influence. If individuals [including myself] would step in and help our fellow man there would be no need for these groups and they would wither away. Think it will ever happen? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Good points. Very good points, indeed. [by Arkady that is] Very logical. The problem is, all parties concerned must be using logic. But do they? Bombers don't want freedom for others and must lose their's. [in advance of damaging others] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Maybe you could enlighten us and explain just what a Jew is. I,ve been looking for a good definition we all could agree on. Even among the "scholarly types" who air here, I can,t find any agreement to speak of. {without "supremist" leanings that is } 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Lawrence, is that comment in response to mine or just a general comment? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Excellent ruling by the judges. How can a school that teaches openess, tolerance and "inclusivity" for the rest of the world practise such bigotry on a personal level? Right back to the old self-serving double standard, huh? I can hardly wait to hear the hollow sounding disingenuous justifications. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 This is an isolated incident. This is not reflective of the Czech people. The Czech Republic is a safe, civilized place to live. There is a long history of tolerance, freedom of thought {and speech} and public participation in democracy. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Will. did you ever try to convey "put the paper where it belongs, NOT in the trash can"? Know what I mean? Nuff said. Probably too much said. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Lithuania and Japan.......One ignores the fact that Jews ever lived in the country and the other denies it ever was in Nanking. I guess if you lie long enough people will believe it or those who weren't directly involved will tire of hearing about it. I hope the Litwaks keep up the pressure and I know China will never forget. I don't like to repeat myself but...Lithuanians shot and killed through the barred peekhole in the cell doors. Only the last victim was the "cleanup guy" and he got his when the last body was in the common grave. You are asking the killer's grandchildren for a fair deal? Boycott Vilna and move out of the Ukraine. Just my advice. If you were there, I apologize. Somebody has to tell it to newcomers, however. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Love is where you find it' Prejudice is where you find it. I've had to deal with it. Call it what it is. Double standard, hypocrisy and yes...BIGOTRY! I don't have to worry about being thrown out of the community because I walked away from it long ago. No ties, with a couple of exceptions. It's a "closed shop." No applicant need apply. The network doesn't want any outside competition that might disturb the entrenched. And this is the stuff that gives credibility to the antisemite. They aren't blind. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Let's see who blinks first on the NK ship. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Good idea. Don't buy any "Chavez" flavored gasoline either. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Lea, it's too late for the West. If for no other reason, abortion should be unlawful. Non-reproduction is slow, gentle genocide. Now that will knot-up a few knickers, I'll bet! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Maybe he is an "Antarctican."And all that nice lumber up there in Canada? Someday we just might make a move on that if Japan doesn,t beat us to it. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I think I made the right decision when I left California. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I for one am not interested in listening to an off duty professor who is inviting his classroom pets to join him for a chat at a beer hall in Munich. I don't wish to see the doors blocked from the outside and the building set on fire either. I know I rag on the French too often to suit some but where are the commies like Malreaux and the Amies from the Lincoln brigade in Spain when you need an intellectually stimulating discussion? I don't even like Cognac but I'll drink some for a good argument. Hell, I'd even listen to Alva Bessie if I could learn something. Monolithic thought and the mutual admiration society it spawns is boring. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Appreciating a little variety of opinion doesn't make one a fellowtraveler. The "freedom square" in the public park is a positive thing if only to identify the fool who is to be viewed with caution. Not being as eloquent as Mr. H, just let me say "what the living sh.... has happened to freedom of speech and critical thinking around here? Some people just can't get past their closed mindedness and rigid opinion. I don't even call it "thinking". Just the steeley hardheadedness found in some areas of Europe in the 1930's. I'll a few of you happy and shut up now. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Correction, I meant "0 net to the program." And corrupt politicians? Same treatment as the blackmarketeer only with trial counsel. Throw in a few lobbyists for good measure. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I know about mismanaged aid. I,ve seen enough donated food and supplies come in the front door of NGO and GO's and go into the pantries of the staff in their private homes. I know that and that is exactly why iI discard almost every solicitation for charity that comes in my mail or E-Mail. Irresponsible charity perpetuates the problem without doubt. In many cases it keeps a lot of bleeding heart MSW's employed, however. I am not stupid enough to want to donate weapons. Medicine and food supplies have to go directly into the mouth or vein of the recipient. Then break the needle. When it comes to aid I,m just like a Soviet commissar. I will be standing there with a holstered Makarov and when a staff member tries to steal and blackmarket anything, he and I would take a walk and I would administer the "Iron Felix Dzerzhinsky" method of counseling. And to add to that Will, that money for the missle defense system going on those Israeli airliners [if it is U.S. sourced] would be 0 net to the program. No middlemen and no "arms merchants" from LORAL and no retired military officers hanging out on a payceck and a car and an expense account. That's how I explain the "billions" you speak of that should be thousands or hundreds. No running for public office and then ripping the public weal or the donor. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And I know how the subject is dealt with scripturally. I am not far enough along in my religious development or possibly I,m just not bright enough to reconcile it. Hopefully I will someday. But I havn't yet. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Will, except that homosexual behavior is sometimes defined as criminal, I just don,t see that there is any relationship between that and any other criminal behavior. When I lived in Palm Springs we had an openly gay mayor and now I think almost all the city council is out [of the closet, so to speak] and with the exception of being a little "spendy" they don't have much else that I know to distinguish them by. They were highly tuned to the needs of the homeless, the elderly, the minority-ethnic groups and were the driving force in creating the human relations commission. [Which quickly dealt with some white supremists who were promoting a "KKK" type agenda in the high school.] That quelled some antisemitism and some antigay simultaneously. It can be safely stated that Jews have played a disproportionately dominant role in human rights in the Western world and that the number of gays in that activity are numerous due to their having suffered "doubly". I hate to see them suffer and I can't understand how they could be seen as less than acceptable in the Jewish community, especially. Just my thoughts. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Canada is certainly asute enough to have someone else pay for and do their national defense for them. Maybe no one gets turned down for medical help for lack of funds but the wealthy head for Seattle when the treatment for cancer needs to be swift. A case in point might be when the the female health minister got the unfortunate diagnosis and was told "this is serious and you cannot afford to wait. Get to the U.S. and get some treatment. It'll take too long in Canada." Deny it if you wish. Statistics will prove the death rate for cancer is higher because the treatment stall is longer. Were you getting some kind of treatment alternative in the old U.S. or just "slumming'? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Catholic politics and internal workings? Nobody's business but theirs. Jewish politics and internal workings? Nobody's business but theirs. Williamson's problems relate more to his alledged cismatic behaviour and unwillingness to toe the "line."I usually dislike the hackneyed phrase "let's move on" and usually see it as a part of a coverup attempt but this time.....It may be a good idea. Just agree to mutually disagree on the persecution and the circumstances of the "Saviors" untimely departure and move on. Or not. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 They probably have no problem knowing who you are. If they pursue your accusations and can show damages, the problem may become yours. I understand your frustration having worked in the court system in your area. Now you can call me stupid [again] if you want, but my advice should be considered at least. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 "bout time. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Good! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 It is with great pain that I say "in this particular and limited instance, I agree." I can't see medicine for patients and babies as a bad thing. We'll probably never agree again but it's me and the H this time. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Call me nuts but aren't there more important things to protest? C'mon now, this should bring out the haters. Who in the hell cares what goes on under someone elses covers? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Was this the Galloway caravan? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 No old crapniks yet. Jews with guts scare you away? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 But ADL and others say it just isn,t so and violence against Jews is decreasing. And these "others" deal with statistics quite a lot according to them. Current laws are adequate if prosecution is adequate. It's a problem of enforcement not too few laws. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Boundaries? Numbers 34. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 There is a lot here I can relate to. Where have you been all this time? And then the same old three or four crapniks show up and well.....while I support their right to say it, it sure gets old. If only I were younger. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 what.s to say? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 They could possibly be referring to civil rights workers. Who knows? One thing is for sure, evesdroppers rarely hear anything good about themselves. I went to school with a guy who is taking care of MLK's archives. The Hymie Town comment ain't nothin. A couple other self-appointed preachers running around at present would make Nixon-Graham conversations sound benign. [ Which in reality and without the emotion, they are.} 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 People who don't use their last names can be located and sued. Careful, there. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I would suggest they move now and not wait for help from any billionaires. Which line would you direct the "unsuitable Jews with improper skills" to get into? I guess you could decide. Just leave the inferior ones to their own devices, maybe. Sounds a little like Ben Gurion's original plan for Israel Just take enouigh Sephardi to work the fields. Where have I heard this all before? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I hope no one feels the need to rain on this parade but I'm afraid some hater who constantly plays the race and bigotry card will find a way to do it. Let these young people be and hope they can do domething to improve this lousy state of affairs we are leaving them. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 This is an insult to the dead and their memory. We should do the work ourselves or pay to have our own young people do it. What do you think these prisoners will do after they are out of jail and off probation? Their will no stones left and refuse dumps built on the sites. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 It's always good to have an on-site office of any kind in enemy territory. That is where intelligence can be gathered and the corrupt regime can be paid a ransom for captives or payments can be made to influence policy in our interests. And that is always done. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 When it comes to "passing gas" where are the usual "first posters" who are experts at that sort of activity? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 jUST ANOTHER STROKE OF THOUGHTFUL PRACTICALITY. hIS jEWISH SUPPORT IS ERODING DUE TO LACK OF A GET TOUGH STANCE WITH IRAN AND HE WILL DUE WHATEVER IT TAKES TO KEEP HIS POLITICAL BASE COMFORTABLE. tOO LATE TO RECOUP ALL HIS LOSSES THOUGH. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 OK, so I got the time wrong. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Could you [jta] be just a tiny bit more specific on what the slur was and a little bit more probative on the context? Thank you. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Trader Joe's? Could a sandal wearing elitist find something to eat there that would shock or baffle a blue-colared working man or impress a junior college freshman? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 There is that little matter of who actually dispatched their "Savior" or who paid to have him eliminated that came earlier in this chain of related events that must be satisfactorily settled and agreed upon before much progress will ever be made. I said Both parties. It hasn't been widely agreed upon whatever the public announcements indicate. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 What part of the video of the guy with the club and the audio "Now you crackers are going to see what it's like with blacks in control" did you miss? Being somewhat cracker-like in appearance myself, I felt intimidated and all I was doing was watching it on television hundreds of miles away. Mr. Rodgers' veracity cannot be questioned on his posting of 6/23/09 11:35. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Interesting. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Feminists actually like burkas because nasty men and boys can't look at women. Keeps them clean and visually virginal so feminists can leer at them later in the womens quarters. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 "He who gives up personal rights for safety deserves neither." Ben Franklin. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Just not aping the party line can get you thrown off some sites. Agree or disagree, I want to hear some of the "diversity" we hear so much about . The "frequent five" we subject ourselves to get a little tedious and JTA gives us a little taste of variety now and then. That's a good thing. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 "Admittedly," we are losing the young. Change is inevitable and one can be a part of it or get rolled over by it. The drunkeness or ill considered comments of the young are not an illness but only symptomatic of the "good ole' boys' " who come on here and push their private agendas and personal attacks. Youthful participants if short on your definition of talent can spot hypocrisy a mile away and that's why at this rate the converts in South America may be all that remains in any number. Then where will your support come from? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Fail to stop nuclear proliferation and there will not be a "next time" or a continuation of things to be afraid of unless you're afraid of radiation cleanup and disposal. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The amount of proliferation has nothing to do with the legitimacy of anything. It only describes how widespread it is. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 If you are going to fast, do it properly and give up water too. Charity doesn,t mean much unless you give 'til it hurts. Fasting doesn,t mean much unless you do it until dehydration. Seems like it would be on a higher plane [like Sedaka] if done anonymously or privately. Fools all. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The Haredim I know feel like a lot of people are now doing it "their own way, for convenience" and not living a Torah true life. They continue to acknowledge the presence of the interlopers, refuse to deal with them and maybe you will have to do the same until their numbers surpass you. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 He probably did it with his bare hands so he could feel it and get the most enjoyment possible from the act. He was a monster; a sadist. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 This "problem" of the exclusive development is common in Arizona and California. The same setup for Baptists or Mormons and a great many panties and knickers would be in a knot and local TV reporters would claim it's a white supremist compound 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Still afraid to use your real name, huh? Now that's the kind of bravery I,m impressed with. I know the temple is safe with you around. Enough people have called you on it now other than myself. That and your last posting just about define you. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Give the untrained a .22 and I would rather take my chances with him or her any day over a bozo who has been to a karate class. I see the same old unwillingness to fight fire with fire. It doesn't require more than a couple of hours to train anyone to rush children into a closet, sit in front of them and operate a revolver with two hands if the door is forced open. No semi autos, just revolvers; double action. Now you are entering into an area I have long been involved in. I know of what I speak. I would never allow my children to go to any activity without adults who are ready to defend them in an adequate manner. That general rule you have excedes the FBI requirement for weekly rounds fired. iI have never heard of any agency that has a "weekly requirement" anyway. It's based on a monthly or quarterly requirement everywhere I,ve ever been. This country and Israel were built from the ground up by "armed, semi-trained individuals with guns in the home." The appropriate level of security is equal or greater force. An old fool with a black belt in tae kwon do at ten feet does not equal a fourth grader with a gun his father has taken him shooting with a few times. The next time you have a home invasion robbery, call the dojo and forget the cops. Not with my grandkids around. "Several thousand miles away" you may have a different constitutional guarantee. Send your wife to a self-defense class for a hundred bucks so a guy can tell her to walk in well lighted areas with her sharpest car key in her hand. I,ll send mine out in the country with a gun enthusiast. The next time you are in Austin, ask the Chief of The Texas Rangers how he used to train under Dennis Brady, his former supervisor on his previous job with the DEA. { Dennis will give you some pointers too } 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 It took us from 1941 to begin development from scratch until 1945 to drop two nuclear bombs. The have a headstart with help from other countries with nuclear weapons and help from a few spies and they,ve purchased a lot of materials so why couldn,t they do it in less than 5 years? {They] They could. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Sooner. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Probably not too traumatic. If you can come on here and accuse him, you need to be able to face him directly and re-accuse him. You do have the right as a defendant to face your accusers don,t you? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Was the Patron Saint of the election process in attendance, too busy in Gaza welling up tears, was his invitation lost in the mailor were his services not required or is it peanut harvesting time in Georgia? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 JTA failed to mention where the ten birthright participants who infected the eighteen Israeli soldiers came from. Their point of departure would be noteworthy. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The creation of "Jobbok" in Hungary and the "Black Guard" in Italy and Feldmajer's comment that there is more Anti-Semitism in Hungary than anytime since the 1940's makes me wonder aloud "is this type of behavior generally on the decrease or increase." OK now that I,ve wondered aloud, I think it's on the increase. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Yep. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Every iindividual employed in any high profile place where Jews congregate should be armed or have ready access to a weapon, have a plan of individual defense for himself and those nearby, and a "rapid response offensive" plan to attack the enemy intruder. I'll try to make it clearer; get a gun for every employee, require that he or she be able and willing to use it or hit the street. Don't depend on the security guard to do much more than absorb the first few rounds and allow you to defend those around you and go into action to eliminate the threat. Can't handle it? Get a job in a secular school or museum if you can't protect children and visitors around you. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Will, if you didn't "fire off" at me when you think I need it, you wouldn,t be much of a friend. I always assume your comments are heartfelt and accurate. I don't appreciate it when a 3rd party tries to start s.... between you and I. For one who constantly accuses others of ducking the issues, his accusation usually comes on the tail of his doing the same thing. But enough about him. He,s miserable, and wants company. Will, I have no political affiliations and havn't for a long time. I didn't like him at the time but if there is such a thing as a "old time JFK democrat" I could probably be part of that. I am white enough to pass for a slice of wonder bread and a lot of left wing racism came into the Democrat party when I was a young idealist. I never felt the desire to learn Swahili or wear a dashikii and at that time you either espoused those social values or suffered the consequences in LA County civil service. Sometimes on this forum we have a choice of "humor" or schizophrenia and much in between. There is a tremendous amount of knowledge and experience available on this forum and I intend to absorb as much of it as I can and comment as much as I want. Sometimes comments are so far from reality it evokes an equally inappropriate comment from me. I,m working on that. But given a choice of a mixture of sarcasm and amatuer humor and pretentious expertise from "Moishe Pipick", people can choose whatever they like and take the other with a grain of salt. For the curious, my white bread persona is only skin deep and under that is a solid block of Sephardic tissue going back to Brazil prior to 1654. I,m 65 and don,t need to play games with that. So Will, I,m here and your perpetual, solid supporter and friend. I,ll carry water for you in the battle any time and service your rifle while you restup for the continued fight. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 He frequently accuses others of not responding to his argument. He went right past my point about the problems that BarMitzvah in jail will cause and went to my spelling. But that's his pattern. Double standard is OK for him. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 When the 33 to 36 thousand Jews in Tehran start leaving for safer places, you'll know things are going to happen. We can,t bomb Tehran {nor should we} for that reason. We should bomb the nuclear facilities now while they are busy with the post election rioting. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I met several people in Berlin when I was in the Army from Egypt and Iran. They were students at the time and were just as nice and decent as could be. There English was as good as mine and we could communicate very well. It always seems to be that way I've traveled a little and people are nice everywhere. The French troops I met seemed to be A holes often and came with a sort of an inexplicable attitude problem. They hated the Germans and the feeling was mutual. I never knew why they hated us though. {their, of course} 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Rabbi Kahane.............hmmmmm...........I don't want to get into trouble so................Is he the guy who said "Every Jew a .22"? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Sir, I hope you are in a position of power and influence. Your concise thinking is at a premium now. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Could you be a little more specific please? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Beautifully stated, Sylvia. I am frequently accused of no longer making significant points. Equaling your post would be a challenge I could never measure up to. Once again, a delight to read and it engenders hope. Keep it up and others look forward to more, I,m sure. While I am not scholar enough to even pretend to fully comprehend it, thanks again. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Now Lee Ann, there you go again coming up with logical unassailable examples of real torture. The kind that hurts. But you must realize that a fat national guard chick making a prisoner watch her pee or watching him pee or forcing him to wear a doggie collar while listening to loud bluegrass music is much more inhumane than your citations. Why how about that guy having to wear his underware on his head at Abu Grabe? Now that's real torture and I may march against that myself. {Now be advised, I was not making a "point" here, this was just another one of my "childish personal attacks." Unless of course illustrating that the demonstrators for the "torture since 9-11 investigation" whiners are just sickening pukes is a point. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I attacked or insulted Stalin but others refer to him as "the man". It wouldn't surprise me if he thinks I called you a moble home dweller. He does misinterpret things as you know. He routinely calls people out for not responding to his points. Well, when he does it I guess it's misspeak or oversight. I aIctually had promised myself to ignore him. This I will try to do. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Will, let me know if you feel you have been attacked by me. It's news to me. I wouldn't respond to it if he hadn't mentioned you. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The explanation will and should be "the cause of the famine was the attempt of the Marxist-Socialist in general and the Party and Stalin in particular to make a left-wing fascist system operate." With a free press and freedom of speech and enough motivated citizens, it won't work. [ Socialists with an "s"] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 As Will would say "more of this to come." As I would say "lavish jail house Bar Mitzvahs and rabble on the White House steps make fascism more attractive to the gullible." Fascism from the right, fascism from the left. All the same. Kill it like a snake where you find it. [not garden snakes, of course] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Just being in the same room with some idiots [Like Steve Gutow} would be torture enough to make me tell every secret I know [none] and compose a few just for relief. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Correct. Strike the nuclear facilities only. Maybe a couple of military targets for good measure. Kill no civilians if possible except workers at the facility. North Korea same operation simultaneously with a 60 second warning to China so they wouldn't call and warn them. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Steve, it's politically incorrect to say trailer trash Say economically disadvanted moble home dwellers. And Steve, there several psycotherapist on this forum. The licensed ones won't admit who they are and the free-lancers don't charge a fee so what's to complain about? I know I misspelled it' It should be "psycho-therapissts". 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Probably will happen. And I guess the pro-bono attorney representing them will be........Irish? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 A "hiloula"? I thought that was a "hooha". 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 You bet it's being used for political purposes and "revisions" to the list should be done in court. Accurize, don't revise. Of course it was a Bolshevik affair, Stalin directed it it will be an embarrassment when it comes out to who the parties were. Hoarding and blackmarketeering were an undeniable outcome. I won't use the term "profiteering" because reds have exclusive use of that for castigating capitalists and party members who have fallen into disfavor. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I think all parties concerned should meet in the park, sing some songs, fly some peace kites, engage in some inter-cultural folkdancing, make some paper flowers and just maybe hold hands and hug. [tactile is good but no leaning firmly, thankyou}. That just be a good way to enter into a two party, two state solution. Just good communication and symbiotic, mutual need fullfilling. Er not. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And maybe form an "umbrella organization to steer and coordinate" other memorial-fund raising groups who will feel the need to gush sympathy and wring their hands. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 He could have shipped the books and saved a lot of money by not shipping himself. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The peanut head probably travels on a presidential library credit card. If you can't pay them off while in office, donate to their library after they retire. That way they can put the kids, the friends, the dog and others on the "no real job" payroll, travel around the world, stay in nice hotels, eat prime rib and "do research and library business." Such a job I should have. The Arkansas Hillbilly has this down to a science, too. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 But Natan, those naive Amies send the gazeetas not to mention those tourists who buy postcards and enjoy the lousy service in cafes from American ex-pats. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Oh, the joy of being in a goyimrein nachbar. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Wildamar, Dave? The brat probably studied up in that canyon above Lake Elsinore. You can see it from Ortega Highway if you're in the right spot. Some bitch on this forum would probably like to go over to the house and have a goatburger. We don't really know enough about the old folks to comment. I don't anyway. I guess the U of Cal Riv. probably gave him the "multi-cultural" experience. Our tax dollars at work. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Did the little thief get a reward? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Doug, too much clear and accurate info for some. Now if it required a firearm and only a firearm to abort a baby, all parents would be required to provide one for every daughter and every school teacher and nurse would be required to carry one. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Maybe the "insane Jew hater" meets with Jews who also hate Jews. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Sorry, but media outlets only supplement my personal experiences and observations. Too many like you in the media. Er..... They're apparently Gospel for you but I question and then make up my own mind. Errrr.....Errr. Er..If the use of "er" is childish, you must be a child. I believe you perfected the usage of it and introduced it into the argot of the internet. And...er thanks for that. Er es fini bei Ihnen. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 "Law enforcment agencies will investigate the case properly and find those guilty" and then they'll all have a good laugh. Take your children and move out of the country. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Succinct, vbb. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 A two week fast would be more effective. If the cause is valid [and it is] do it with enough action to equal the need. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I posted the "he gave it to the right guy" comment on the "Shalli's Father gives letter to Carter" article. Why did JTA move it over to this Carter article un-related to the earlier one? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Gadahn's grandparents were living in Riverside County, California, the grandfather is an Orthodox Jew to Catholic convert and raises chickens and goats and sells meat to Orthodox Jews who drive out from Los Angeles. Gadahn worked on the farm while attending the University of California. When he left the country, there was a high profile "missing persons" search similar to an Amber Alert put into effect within hours. Few get this much attention. Two soldiers were killed in Iraq while driving a truck shortly after he arrived and he made a statement indicating personal knowledge of the crime and bodily mutilation they suffered. He was on the FBI's top ten. Maybe number one. The parents? Don't know. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The "H" could stand for "hooka" ya know i.e. in hooka "pipe". So is he predominantly a "hash head" or just a "humus head"? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 A cocktail of aricept and fluoxetine might treat your "bitchnickness" 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Er...Er.....Er......Uh...Uh...Er..Er.....Uhhh..Errrrrrrrrrr....Uh I,m jealous of your Er.....Uh...great..........Uh.....Sty...le..er...and .....your...uh...clever ...uh...powers....of.......er...pursuasion....and...I,m...just..er...such...a...er...."bitchnik.....and..uh...er..uh...you...er...aren't. Er.....plus.....er....you're...er...er...ugly....and.....your...wife....er...makes....you...er..er..wear...uh...funny looking...clothes. And ....er...you...bought....retail....and...nobody..likes...you.....and...you...eh...hate..uh..er...yourself...Or not. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Sorry Will.....No definitions will be made at this time. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 vbb, I disagree on the Will thing. Does that mean Mrs. O is Maxine Waters and Sheila Lee Jackson rolled into one? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 He gave it to the right guy. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I would agree with that analysis, Ivan. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And one last correction.....It's "scatalogical" not "scatalogial". I for one, don't even re-read this verbal scat before I post it. Not trying to impress or influence anyone. Just hoping to provoke thought and inspire correct conclusions. What are you doing? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Thank you for the compliment. Sometimes I am very good. You inspire me type so fast I will miss a comma or even a word or two now and then. You give the appearance of being anti-Christian evey time you accuse Will of being one. The context is always in the negative when try to cite quotes of instances where you can prove him "guilty". {Of the crime of being a Christian} You are a small minded bigot in spite of your denial. So some of your "best friends are Christian," huh? I've heard that before. I think George Wallace said it. Only it was referring to African-Americans. Wrong again Ari,, I said "you" and that means more than one. You weren,t the "only one." Now c'mon Ari, you were using your surname initial long before I came on this forum. Yep, I do march to different drummer than you do. {Thank G-d.} I try to do my own thinking. I have been making a general reference to ongoing and increasing violence since coming on here and predated the last few anti-Jewish attacks by weeks or a month maybe. As to my "claptrap"...if there is any clap around here it must be in your trap, not mine. Now your greatest and possibly most inaccurate insult; Me? A Republican? Now that's a really vicious accusation. Not on my life. My punctuation and grammar and word usage could always use improvement. My spelling? Well, I spell "Nostradamus" with a "T". Ari, get off the Obama thing. I didn't vote for him but he is an American president and will receive my support and protection in all ways at all times. I just don,t always agree with. A little dissent is always a healthy thing in this country. I don't know or care and don't want to hear where you live but if you live "thousands" of miles away, you probably don't have a real strong first ammendment. Or maybe you do. And one more thing, I,m not in "politics" unless you count my not to be taken seriously "ramblings'" to be "in" politics. I don't. What would I do "political points" if I'm not in the game? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Will, hardly. But thanks for the compliment. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Don't forget LO---L and Bernie S. {Missile guidance] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Just refer back to my comments. You don;t need to repeat verbatim. For you paraphrasing is a challence, I know since your comprehension is frequently so remote from peoples words that your response is kinda disconnected. I would hope you would concentrate less on how I responded to Pierre and comment on my thesis that "special treatment and conspicuous consumption by wealthy inmates cause animosity from incarcerated peers." When a specific ethnic or religious group gets treatment perceived as inappropriate and favored, neo-nazis, NOI etc seize upon this and do I need to go any further? You passed on this and it was my real point. That,s your business however and I imagine all this will fly over your head or you will consciously respond with some convoluted remark. To quote Arkady, "I so stupid being are most pictured your eezoochayyu to be the cause to never live by tthe hungry Kirichenko U.S. dollars for lunch of the Hollywood fats." And you know what? I really don't have time to keep score on how many Jews versus Gentiles get how much time or prosecutions. I also don;t see much of a conspiracy to over investigate Jews by any prosecuting authority. Just read the personal roster in most big city DA's office. It would pass for the guest list at the jail Bar Mitsvah. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Shame on spies and lobbyists. Let's get religion out of it and prosecute the guilty. Time constraints? From what I've heard thus far [and admittedly it's too soon and not enough info] I'd hand those two, old red shirted , Marxist, Castro lovers over to an impartial council of Cuban nationals. See if they'd dispense with that smirk when their retirement benefits and that sailboat take a dip in the harbor. Let them live in a favela with the "masses", share soap and and toothpaste and paper products with the proletariat. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Who cares what their name is? Just another bunch of jerks dining at the donor's trough. And in redundacy too. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Ari, you jump to incorrect assuptions at every opportunity. I don't care if this guy goes to jail or not. Deal with a goniff and you'll get screwed. Ivan has it correct and in total perspective, I think. The guy shamed the community. Do you have any idea of the violence and general anti-semtism that will result from this guy,s getting special treatment while in jail? What Rabbi intervened with which borough politician and what police official to pull this PR disaster off? This is the s... that recruits the bigots. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 There are some points I stay oway from on the net. You might be surprised by which Rabbis I actually prefer. One thing is certain, I think religious leaders in the community should confine their activity more to religion and less to politics. When a Rabbi goes to a city council meeting and uses his position of respect to swing a bond issue for sidewalks or street lights one way or the other, we part company. In the international area when a theocracy is facing doom or survival issues it's a different matter. Many religious types become grant writers and launch a campaign to screw around in the quality of where they don't belong. That's why churches and synagogues have to become social clubs in some cases to attract a flock. Many have lost their credibility and many practise the same bigotry and exclusionary practises they rail against. Selling tickets to any religious service just makes me sick. Line up early at the front door and first come first served. High dollar donors always know someone in the office and can usually get a ticket one way or the other after there are none left. I'll just drop it before it gets too close to home. This isn't directed to anyone on this forum in particular. I don't attack any Rabbi who doesn't need a wake up call [in my opinion] and those who have lost my respect may be the butt of some of my poor attempts at humor. There are times when all this gets a little too personal and I am guilty of that. Joking about a first name sounding a little "French" and associating it with escargot does not make a person a bigot. A poor humorist and rude but not a bigot. {And you know who you are Pepe le Pew} That,s a word that is getting a little overused around here. In reality, it,s definition is tendentious anyway. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Will, Beaver "Schmeever", Beavis "Schmeevis" it's all about the same thing. Personally, I was watching "The Rifleman" with Chuck Connors. Ya think that's when I went bad? [No comment from the land of academe and hooka heads, please] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I could name a couple others too. One living in Switzerland for instance. Rahmbo put that deal together. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 What exactly is a "Reconstructionist" Rabbi? It has been said "he pricks the conscience of Israel?" I just hope he doesn't have the conscience of a ......... He's probably a nice guy. Just a little misguided, perhaps. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 John Q., that is a little too inclusionary. There are plenty[well...quite a few] of Jews who aren,t Zionists. In fact, some are anti-zionists. Wanna know of a couple groups? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 They already have three states; Hamtramick, Detroit, and California. [Well, actually they're sharing that with our Border Brothers.] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Oh, but things are looking better. I've been assured that these incidents are on the decrease. This assurance is by the scholarly, academic, proffessorial types who would rather sue than fight. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Maybe they aren't in the business of religion. Just in business. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 "hate crime" status only proves special interst groups have gotten into the legal system and passed laws under the constitutional radar that guarantees "equality" to all of us. A special form of bigotry and prejudice that now passes for law in some places is all this really is. It's harder to spot only because the "rights merchants" and liberals and psuedo-intellectuals and people who deal with civil rights are assumbed to be protectors of these rights. You assume a doctor won,t poison you and a firefighter won,t burn down your house or start a forest on fire. Unfortunately it happens. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 It's simple Charlie, some victims just aren't valuable enough to rate a hate crime. A gay victim can claim that status. Sure, a Muslim can too. But not the white soldier in Arkansas who got shot by the Muslim bastard. He was only good enough to go to the ME if called upon and get his ass shot off so chicken s.... Ari can go around and kiss enemy ass and excercise his right to shoot his mouth off and use a nickname. Get some guts Ari, get some balls, admit you are an anti_christian bigot and spare us your personal attempts at perpetuating your constant pissing contests. Save your hatred for those who would like to remove us from the face of the earth. And keep sucking up to the enemy until a handful of nails from a "love bomber" gets your attention and wises you up. You have a lot of crap to sling at targets you assume won't reciprocate. Don't be to sure. And if you think things are so rosey on the subject of hate crimes against Jews, there is no hope for you anyway. Self hatred will get you no sympathy. Sharing your dessert with the lunchroom bully will get you just that....your just desserts. What pisses you off about the DC shooting is that I predicted it and you can only Monday morning quarterback it. Now go eat some fried goat meat, drink some Arab tea and smoke your hooka pipe. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 If you "voted with your legs 30 years ago" you must have only recently started using English. Yeah, it's lousy. You can't see a compliment when you are handed one and personally I think you are a fraud. You purposely misspell words and use that "wild and Crazy Guy" persona made popular by Steve Martin on Saturday Night Live, yeah about 30 years ago. People on this forum have been giving you slack for a long time out of common courtesy. Get yourself a Berlitz course, a dictionary of "English-Cossack and Cossack-English" wise up a little bit and get off the vodka. Your personal hardluck doesn't get you much around here. You sound like a pissed off ,former KGB loser who no longer can walk around with i pistol in your pocket and push people around. And once again, lose that phony word order, come up with some articles and admit it; you really are Alan Arkin. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Why do people hide behind initials and cute names? Who are you [plural you] anyway? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Of course they will, the Ukrainian Billionaires wont give them anything. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 So Kenneth B, what would you suggest the "urgent attention" consist of? James, the American public has been brow-beaten for so long on this subject I would think a desire for catharsis would be one of the more benign things we could expect. They see a uniformed soldier killed by a Muslim terrorist [admitted] and get no sympathy in the media or on this forum and then a museum guard dies by a psycho and the media and the politicians vomit sympathy. How do you think they interpret that? C'mon John Q. Bigmouth, where are you on this? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 You co-starred in that episode but it was "Beaver and Butthead", not Leave It To Beaver. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The "soles of one's shoes" don't usually appear to the party on the other end in a phone call. We had the shoe bomber now maybe it will be the shoe phone. Bit of a stretch I,d say but you are correct in his attitude. Are you saying the photo was posed intentionally to shoot a sole shot? Did you know L.A. County changed the latrine setup so Nation Of Islam members and real Muslims don't have to urinate in an Easterly direction? Pretty expensive accomodation for a state and county that are broke. Bear in mind that many on the correctional staff are NOI members too. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 There have been some timely discussions on this forum recently and prio to the recent hate incident-homicide in Washington. The hide your head and hope anti-semitism will go away if you silence the haters side and the let them vent so you know who they are side have both spoken. I believe in letting them speak. Let both sides speak. People need to know the dangers and need to be cautious. These targets of hate need to be security conscious and aware. All the cameras in the world are only useful after the fact. Staff working in these sites need to be trained and prepared to act in defense of themselves and the public near them. Tensions will run high on the heels of this murder, the knee jerk emotionalists will feed on the incident, politicians will posture, lawmakers will scream and hopefully there will be no victims in the future. Unresolved frustrations lead to these incidents and the free exchange of opinion influences everyone in the long haul. If everyone had read this guys garbage and been aware of him, this may not have happened. Just my considered opinion. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 If you had to spend a weekend camping at Lake Arrowhead with one, would you choose Rev. Wright or Rev. Phleger? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 No. Memorialize 'eveyone together" or treat each group separately in alphabetical order. One for Jews and another for "all others" is unfair unless built with private money on private property, in which case do however you like. Others can do the same with their own money on private property. To make good sense, a good, general explanation of the event would cover all parties with appropriate emphasis and historical accuracy. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 David, I had formed the impression G-d cast the Jewish people into the dispersion. Correct me. You make some interesting points that will not be fairly considered by many. La Raza? I have known many hateful, garden variety racists in that organization from Linclon Park, Lincoln Heights, Hollenbeck, Aliso Village, City Terrace, Silver Lake, Red Hill etc. in LA. I choose to back off on the other two. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Pierre.."Or not." 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 You still have the Russian soul and good for you. The spirit will live on through your progeny or your voice on places like this. Your heart is that of Gogol or Stinka Razeen. Bless you. Even former nazis in Berlin used to tell me "alle ist in ordnung mit die Russische leute...Aber die Regiung...." The Russian people are fine, good people, it's the government that is the problem". I have always believed that. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 C'mon Ari, I have never said, implied or suspected the ADL of being anti-semitic, anti-zionist or any such thing. I think however there is an anti-second ammendment sentiment within it and that it probably dominates the opinion there and that during a period of trying to see appeasement come to fruition in Israel, it might tend to "soft-pedal" any violent acts of anti-jewish behavior to preserve "peace tralks" or some such goings on. I still believe it, don't generally like the organization and still believe hate crimes against jews are on the increase. You believe whatever you want. How do you tabulate the "unreported hate crimes against Jews? Remember: "figures don't lie but liars do figure." And I don't mean you when I say that. You assume much about my opinions in error. Will counts the newspaper articles. I base my observations on street experience and living in the big city. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Ari, I apologize, it waas someone else who disagreed with my analysis. Sorry. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The day before yesterday Ari H quoted ADL and said "anti-Jewish hatecrimes are decreasing" and asked "who should we believe, Leland Madearis the self-appointed expert on anti-semitic hate crimes [who claims they are on the rise] or the ADL? Well Ari....who do you believe now, me or the ADL? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Pierre and Jacques: Did you hear about the two snails sitting on a bench across from the Chrysler dealer? A demo pulled off the lot burning rubber and accelarating down the street. Snail 1 said to snail 2, "Wow, did you see that "S" Car go? " Sorry. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Pardon me, please pass the escargot. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 What took you so long? Tell the "reindeer" Lithuania is "flyover country" too. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Would he be required to be circucised completely or is there such a thing as a "partial" or abbreviated version. Some GU type please tell us. "A dorsal slit, then 180 degrees descending then anterior" might be just the thing for a guy who just can,t make up his mind. A change of mind and a return to his former religion and he still effect something similar to a "combover." It might be a "hangover" then or no that's for drinkers. It could even be a "leftover." A "meatus leftover". I've got to stop, this has gone too far. Sorry. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 His wife [what only one?] makes it sound like he will have Star of David around his neck, a New Testament in his right hand, and a copy of "Awake" in his left hand. I would add to all this a propellar beaney and maybe a lightning rod in his back pocket. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 During good times we get complacent. During bad times we get desparate and make desparately bad choices. Keep the press free and the public voice unfettered and we'll make the right decisions. Dissent provides the contrast needed to form perspective. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 All reports are worthy of consideration. As an old traffic analyst, I can tell you useful information and raw material can be found everywhere. It needs only to be "weighed" properly and given accurate emphasis. And the matter of state's rights has been suffering since April 9, 1865. We all lost on that one. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I don't want balance. I want to see 100% effort for this side. I still havn't seen him touch that dog yet. I've seen the kids playing with it in the yard but he had his hands in his pockets. Dogs and hogs, some people don't touch them. "Dog owners" are seen by many in the East as "unclean." I really hope this is not a political consideration and I pray it isn't a personal choice. I don't want him to engage in "ear pulling" like LBJ but how about a place on the davenaeu and pat on the head and a doggy treat. Please. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Being less than assertive has gotten us a couple of hostages in NK. I havn't seen many details on what happened in Peshawar yet but I hope it wasn't directed towards American or more specifically Jewish tourists because then I'm going to say "see, I told you....." to a couple of friends and fellow postpersons. I hope I'm wrong this time. And one thing I have to say is that I know from personal experience one cannot "accidently stray across the border into NK". Possibly in China it could happen. Sometimes they will pull the border back and one can get snatched in a place that one shouldn't be but appears to be safe. That little trick was common along the East-West border in Berlin. A friendly VOPO would engage a tourist on the West side and then grab him and pull him over the fence from a spot that was actually in East Germany. I doubt if the two ladies in NK will be put on the tree bark diet but they are the insurance policy against a general blockade and other sanctions. The informed media here expects a quick release. I don't. They have had the defector from 1962 [Larry Abshear} with no effort by Allbright or Richardson to get him back. He's the one who taught The Dear Leader English and some American culture. He's probably dead now. He had no friends or relatives here when he left. No pressure to return him. The last time I had his pentagon file opened, I was the only who had ever even inquired about him. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Pierre, if you put all the"queens" in England on a list, it would be called "the list that stretched around the world" or... the sun never sets on Britains list of queens." C'mon now, take a joke pleeeeze. Who knows, maybe I'd be an "honorary" listee. Or maybe even that guy over there peeking out of the office coat closet. Or...who knows? Or...who cares? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 A "soccer match for peace " is somewhat like fighting pit bulldogs for animal health care. One ain't peaceful and the other ain't healthy. That,s downright charitable to "not deny Palestinians their sports rights." 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Will. I'm afraid the project will never get finished as long as the businesses are being carried with subsidies. This type of public works project can become a career for life for some. When the money stops the business community will apply pressure where needed and the cycle toward completion will get rolling. Socialism can be a bad thing. No aplogies to any civil-parasites out there to whom this may apply. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Good idea to uproot any tree being used for cover to shoot from behind. If uprooted for spite? Not good. The boats? Need more info. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 It should be open and public, of course. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I'm old and fifty pounds overweight. I think I,m going to become an athlete. Yeah... that's it....I think I,ll be a a long distace runner and compete in that "iron man" thing. Sure. And after that I.m going to be an astranaut. {yeer right..I can't even spell it.] 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I hope everyone at the UJC office enjoyed rubbing shoulders with a high powered appointed official. I'm sure the stimulation was more tactile than intellectual. The lowest paid clerk in the office is probably as well informed on health care. Kansas feels relieved that she is gone. Our gain is the Fed,s loss. She will however carry "left wing water" for all the thirsty socialists out there. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Yes. And discuss it we will. We will discuss and comment the H-ll out of this and everything else.....As long as we still have the First Ammendment that is. And would you believe there are legions out there and many on this forum who would put the brakes on free speech? G-d bless this constitution of ours. It protects all the rights we have. Fascism sneaks in from the right and the left with many disguises and riding on the back of many good causes. Keep your eyes open. Be on guard. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Fisher and H. you make it sound like you are the first two to come up with the concept. It's simply U.S Constitution First Ammendment . It's been mentioned on this forum a few hundred times. Welcome to the party. Glad you finally got here. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Could be declining and could be increasing......It's all in who,s doing the counting. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Kinda like the U.S.S Liberty? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Nation Of Islam members are not "in harmony" with Shia or Sunnis. They claim the American Elija Muhammid from New York to have "prophet status" of some level and that is blasphemous to most Muslim clerics around the world. The Nation Of Islam has many followers in the penal system in this country amongst the inmates and the correctional staff including sworn officers. There exists a most peculiar nexus between the two and that relationship accounts in some degree for the formation of "mutual protection" groups of Hispanic and white supremist pursuasions. Don't believe me? Too bad. It's true. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And being "Non-Zionist" is neither "Anti-Zionist" nor "Anti-Semitic." 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Not yet, anyway.... 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 All this cultural-nostalgia makes me hungry for a "French Dip" sandwich from Cantor's old deli on Brooklyn and Soto or maybe something from Phillipe"s on Main across from the Union Station. Long time ago. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Last White House Stew, not this one. But if the policy fits, wear it. Funny thing, I thought it was Billy Boy who "didn't know what to do" with bin Laden. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 "Ms" Madearis? Now that is a very telling moniker. Having some gender confusion are you Stew? Wouldn't wont to hop in the Mikva with you before but now it's a downright frightening thought. Give it a rest Stew. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Most Americans don't. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 How long would you have to shake a box full of watch parts to get a Rolex? How much longer would it take to get a "live" one that could wind itself? Hmmm......That's a lot of random selection I'd say. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 That next to last sentence wouldn't hold up to scientific scrutiny. The last sentence is quite believable. however. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Properly said. Call on me when the time comes. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And though the Arkansas killing was a stated Muslim, terrorist attack on an active duty U.S. soldier, No long drawn out JTA OP ED for him. I would like to know if the victim was in uniform. If he was, I wouldn't house the shooter at Fort Leavenworth or Fort Riley. Let's keep him safe and give him a fair trial. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Was the killing of the soldier an attack on America or the act of a "Madman" as I've read on this forum? That killer in Arkansas looks a little frightened but is more of a committed terrorist than Roeder to me. Roeder would appear to be a long-time whack job and full time fruitcake. Not an America destroyer. He is one of those anti-tax, anti-license plate geeks from the Northwest. Now on the other hand, Mr. Arkansas shooter stated his dislike for U.S. military policy and traveled around Yemen. I doubt if he was over there looking for ways to improve America. The Tiller killer? Less political and just one cashew short of of a full bag. Or as we say in Texas, "one enchilada short of a combination plate." Like I said before, the Arkansas Muslim will get more sympathy than his victim. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Here's an idea....."cut the champagne, the brunches, the lunches, the expense accounts, the travel pay, the cell phone allowance, the friends and relatives and no show employees from the budget and spend more on the final recipiant." Oh sorry, that isn't a "new" idea and it steps on too many toes. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Of course I meant "rationalize" because "rationaise" is probably some kind of yuppy salad dressing. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 While not being in favor of capital punishment of any kind, I'm tempted to "rationaise away this killing " if done before the shooter was in custody' and maybe calling it "preventing the slaughter to continue." If he was removed from custody and killed.....it was a lynching. Once you are effectively arrested, Arab or Jew, you deserve protection and access to the legal system. I don't care who you are. But let me tell you at the same time, I,m for life terms for many crimes. No luxuries but just adequate humane treatment. And inexpensive enough not to "disfurnish" the taxpaying citizens paying the bills. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Itagiba's law is breaching the G-d given law of the right to free speech which is what is needed to sort out the lies and get to the truth. You can't yell "fire" in a crowded theater but you should be able to go to the manager, shut off the projector, turn up the lights and announce , "We are sorry for the inconvenience but it has come to our attention there is a registered arsonist in the house with a gallon can of gas and a box of matches and a railroad flare. The police will be removing him shortly and the film will resume." Now that is freedom of speech for any idiot out there who will come with the "screaming fire in a crowded theater analogy of the stupid ass who wants to throw his rights away." 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Yer not surprised by this are you? Of course ADL guarantees us that such incidents are on the decrease. Keep your fire policy paid up. Keep "Roscoe" well fed and oiled too. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Good luck to everyone in the world.. "Good luck " is only good if applied to good things. I don't begrudge genuine "good" for anyone. "G-d, please eliminate the existance of pain, suffering, ill will, and unfortunate circumstaces from every living thing and every Soul in this universe and all other universes and Heaven in the entire past, the complete present and 100% of the future". 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I sometimes resort to metaphor and innuendo to get a point across not being an academic or scholarly type [thank G-d] as you may know. Will, on the other hand lays it out in a more direct manner. Just read what he says, don't "read into what he says" and come up with your own tortured interpretation. That along with lying is becoming all too common around here. Suzan Sher sounds like she's qualified and fits in well. I hope she does well. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Will, you are going to piss off you know who and he'll jump on my tail. Misdirected anger? Maybe. I can take it. He does have the influence to remove one's postings. however. I don't intend to adjust what I have to say to get past him. Never. I'm inclined to think people are getting a belly full of his line of bull. I hope someone will make it known to him. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 A lot of debris was scattered over a wide area according to early reports. That usually indicates a mid-air breakup. I didn't say explosion but you're right, I was thinking it. Now the story is that no wreckage has been found. Coverup to preserve the international political climate? Maybe. Or not. Spectrographic analysis of surfaces harvested from wreckage will tell more. I hope we learn more. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Rather than fund an entity to teach about the Holocaust, let survivors visit and teach in the schools. Their stories can't be denied by any rational person. First person accounts are effective. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Stew, give it a rest you sorehead. I only compared you and only you to making a crap eating dog hungry. Now you once again say I compared "vets" with crap eating dogs. Now it's changed to "JVets". Are you just crazy, are you unable to read or are you just a liar? Everyone who keeps up with this forum knows exactly what I said. You accused me of not being a vet and I called you a probable GS-6 clerk of some sort at the VA Hospital. I did not characterize the shooting victim in Arkansas as an antisemitic hate crime. You are the self-appointed psychotherapist or health worker of some kind. What does the ADL have to do with my comment anyway? Consider the source and consider what I say on the basis of the evidence. You seem to be too upset for what the issue at hand involves. I'll let it go at that. But once again, give it a rest. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Are you surprised? This the country where you can sign a rental agreement and get a warranty the building is "100% Gypsy free". 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Don't investigate. Pack up, cut your losses and move. You know what's headed your way if you remain. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Forget the cameras, pass out some guns [and some testes if needed} then hire a retired Texas Ranger to show you how to use them. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I don't doubt the American people will "reap the fruits of what the White house has planted" but it will be more a result of weakness and inaction rather than "animosity toward Muslims". 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Hillel, you are correct in saying the settlements are "one of the major obstacles to a resolution of the conflict". But the " primary obstacle" is your existing anywhere on earth. Listen to them, not me. They want you dead, will build a trash dump on your graveyard, and use your headstone to build a latrine [which is their wont to do] or a set of steps leading to a swimming pool like still exists in Germany. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Go to the boundries in "Numbers 34" and fight for them. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 By next week there will be more sympathy for the Muslim shooter than for the soldier who put on the uniform, took the oath, finished boot camp, came home and got shot in his hometown for nothing. We are nearing the point of having to dodge shrapnel while drinking coffee at the corner bistro. Release those Gitmo prisoners and the recruiting will increase. The inward directed gang violence will take on new directions. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 "Hang together or hang separately". The choice is ours. Our choice is obvious. Wrong choice. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Robin, we need more with your insight. You probably won,t get much response to what you,re saying. The "loudmouths" we often hear from and who are self-proclaimed experts on bigotry and prejudice will be hard-pressed to defend from this. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Nobody who ever took a "well placed " bullet ever caused anyone a problem again. Never. Some people "talk" about problems and some "solve" them. Unfortunately. the talkers sometimes prevent the solvers from finishing the job. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 You put it succinctly. Nothing needs to be added. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Yeah...be more dynamic. With a little gift from Alfred Nobel. It,s called "dynamite". Would that be dynamic enough? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Retroactive to the War? That would be enough moola to buy a brand, spankin', new Chinese Hummer. With two you get egg roll. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Denying a child a hearing implant is child abuse. Misery loves company someone once said. True it is. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 How can one make peace "to" the Palestinians and Israelis? "With" I can understand. "Between" might work. But "to".....? Dysfunctional teleprompter perhaps. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 So. what exactly is it? Strange, outrageous funny or not funny? Not being a law professor or not even an academic, I,m well.... confused. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Something in what I said apply to you personally? Will and I support the "right to say it" even when we disagree on some things. Their are so few of us we have to stick together. Don't like it? Don,t read it. Be a little more specific in your comment. Don't associate us with the big lie or the back-stab. When someone "lies" get up and fight the verbal fight. Don,t wire the the other guys mouth shut. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Creating an "ethnic-religious" specific section in a burial ground calls attention to that group . Call it "scapegoating yhe dead" or whatever you like. Call it not wanting to be buried next to the wrong people. Intermingle and reduce the problem. The same desecration could be expected on markers not using Cyrilic characters of any variety. Stand out and expect attention. Sub-cultures always have to defend. Soc. 101. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Frightening disregard for the fist ammendment. Were his words morally questionable or in disagreement with the prevailing philosophy of the administration? Being merely a citizen and not an "academic" I hope I may comment. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Michael, I'm not to sure the first ammendment was being put to it's best possible use at the time the Holocaust was getting of the ground. There were too many people hanging on to the status quo in Europe and the U.S. who figured if they kept silent the problem would pass them by. When I read of the fund raising efforts of the Irgun by Ben Hecht and others and the stonewalling they got from the Jewish community on the East and West coast, it appears to me the first ammendment was being given a lot of rest and no excercise. Had it been otherwise , things may have been different. Enough coverage on the railroad tracks leading to the camps and the public would have demanded daily bombing. Too bad the activist energy was focused on world socialism instead of news media coverage. Too many wanted it kept quiet, I'm thinking. That launch facility in NK and reactor site should have been bombed a couple years ago along with Iran's analogous sites like I've been bitching about on this forum for weeks. The first ammendment will get a chance to save those 26,000 men on the 38th parallel if I can contribute anything to the problem. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I'll believe you're serious when you buy youself a userfriendly weapon and teach your family how to use it. Or you can outlaw them and only the terrorists will have them. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Kinda like establishing the connection between "Medearis" and "Mereda" on the Catherine in 1654. Very Sephardic and very doable, I hope. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I may as well say it. Will is a Jew. A " real" Jew. Not an impostor or a diluted, deluded Jew. A Jew. What the H-ll are you? I know what I am. Now probably I,ll get removed for this. It's worth it. Just pease post this last one. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Please don't tell me this is news. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Time to get a brain. Time to "re-assert" the validity of Israel. It's been done many times already and should be done perpetually. Making a lie unlawful just gives the liar material to say you are unable to back up the truth. The truth is always able to defend itself with proof. You cannot prove a lie. Just deal with it. Right again, Will. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Mr. Marquis, at one time I lived in Bakersfield. I know of what I speak. I know it is a "sellout" to remove the kippa. The idea is not to remove the kippa but to move out of Bakersfield. That town is where one goes to get a job in the oilfields, buy a pit bulldog or drugs or get a start as a country singer. I imagine your forty years with the feds didn't include the terminal annex post office in LA or the U.S. Marshall's Service or you would be aware of the cross and Bible problems. One need not deny one's being a Jew, just use a little good judgment. And California ain't Massachusetts or New York. And I am located in Kansas. There are three generations of Jews around here who have been getting Baptised and going to church so long they have completely forgotten their origins. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Amen. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Cancel the religious and national holidays and you cancel the nation. Don't jail them, shun them. Then run them out. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 So why was he living in Italy? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The boundaries are in NUMBERS 34. What's to talk about? I've been saying "bomb NK and Iran remote facilities. What are we waiting for? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 As a fellow Kansan, I too am concerned with the lack of participation on this forum of late. The funding of faith based partnerships is actually funding of Acorn type NGO's that play fast and loose with the nonorofit concept and the expense account. Faith has very little to do with it unless you consider partisan-left wing politics at the grassroots level and veiled Marxism faith. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Jta have my daily briefings been suspended? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 If I were going to wear my yarmulke in Bakersfield, I would wear a NASCAR cap over it. I also would not wear a Nazi insignia in Jerusalem or Palm Springs and I wouldn,y sport a Star of David in Yemen. A little judgment is in order here. Yeah, yeah I know about freedom of religion too. Remember California is the same state where you can,t wear a cross in the workplace or have a Bible on your desk if you are a PO or Social worker. I smell out of court settlement here too. {To the disadvantage of freedom of religion, I might add} Were the kosher meals brought in or demanded in the school cafeteria? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 If I were to vent on this subject, I would be denied postings on this sight. What I would like to do is inappropriate for explaining here. So I won,t. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Gaza shouldn't have been given away. No question about it. If giving it away and peace are mutually exclusive, could some scholar tell me why Obama got the lion's share of the U.S. Jewish vote? I can't figure it out. Knowing now what we suspected before vis-a-vis his attitude toward a two state solution and probably a divided Jerusalem, wouldn't it be a kick if he ran for president of Israel and won? Bet he would. I need help understanding this. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Could be. Or not. More info needed. The Forward's coverage on this matter seems fairly complete and objective. The "Forward" is also "Jewish" as you say, isn't it? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 But do you know about Pelosi's Father and his stellar work in saving Jews during World War II? Much more significant. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The reading material in one's house does not mean much unless it somehow is enshrined, for lack of a better word. Every educated Jew in the world has probably perused "Mein Kampf" even if a better title would be "mein Krapp." So did they read it in secret or throw it away upon finishing it? People are so stupid. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Rescuing "nearly seven hundred" Jewish children wasn't "dangerous enough?" At what number does it become dangerous enough for "Righteous Gentiledom?" 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 So what,s to be surprised by? After all, they don't have a first ammendment to protect them. We do. Usually. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Forgotten about Stetsco and Bandera? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Why would Germans and Jews ever migrate to the same area? Just like Serbs and Hrvatskiis in California. Never a Serbian community and never a Croation community. Always a "Serbo-Croation" community and incessant fighting. When will people ever learn? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Difficult to say where "fanaticism" ends and "crime" begins isn't it? I can think of several sects of major religions where rearing children within them is simply child abuse. Better not mention them though. Might piss a lot of people off. I,ve learned to be more vague than my former self. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 A divided Jerusalem? Beginning of the end. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 They won't find jobs for them, they are too busy getting them into school and finding lawyers to help them evade immigration authorities. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Shalit is their ace.. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 America doesn't need to 'prove" Iran's intentions. We, and the rest of the world need only to "listen" to what they are saying and then act appropriately. Which will probably be to do nothing. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Islam got it's nose under the tent in Venezuela. Monroe Doctrine anyone, before it's too late? Of course it already is too late. While chasing terrorists in the Middle East, South America went to H-ll in a handbasket. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The scent of genocide is in the air. If we wait for fusion to clear the air, it might be too late. Now I am being facetious. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I am not being facetious when I inquire into his feelings on the subject of the unborn? I am diminished by the death of any man {not my words, of course] but particularly so by the death of an ethicist. And we all are. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The unfortunate thing about the settlement problem is that it takes away from the more important problem of a nuclear capable Iran. Arguing statute law ad infinitum also clouds the more pressing issue. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Will, is correct as usual. As soon as it is determined the authorities are turning a blind eye, pack. If and when it is determined they are complicit, move quickly. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Infighting and bickering will be the end of all of us. I,ve learned my lesson. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00