Doyle E. Bays, Jr. http://jta.org/user/profile/64253 doylebays@gmail.com en-us rcsillag@jta.org Copyright 2009 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 "40 percent of Jewish settlement territory was built on privately owned Palestinian land" - when will the world realize that all "Palestinian" settlements are built on Israeli land? G-D gave the land to the descendants of Abraham through his son Isaac and grandson Jacob, not through Ishmael and his descendants. G-D reaffirmed the covenant with Isaac and Jacob. The “Palestinians” are not from Palestine, which is only a change in the word Philistine. Palestine was used to replace Judea and Israel on maps during a time of heightened anti-Semitism circa 400AD. Modern “Palestinians” are actually Arabic descendants of Ishmael, not descendants of the Philistines. For those who wish to be less Biblically oriented, the Balfour Declaration and its successor document the Mandate for Palestine, set forth a Jewish homeland west of the Jordan, and Arabic lands east of the Jordan. So, the current land of Israel should Biblically and legally be Jewish (no “Palestinians”, Arabs, Christians, etc.). The “Palestinians” should be moved east of the Jordan, into their country Jordan. But, it doesn’t suit Arabic, Muslim, or world agendas to move the “Palestinians” to Jordan. As long as they are in place, they are a way for the powers-that-be to say, “Oh, look how mean the Jews are. They mistreat these poor refugees.” And as long as they can tell that lie, the powers-that-be can swing world opinion against the Jews in attempts to remove them from the land. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Sad to think an American would say that about his own president, but it happened. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Bibi, this is how much I care about Israelis. Remember, I'm Islamic. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Hmmm...Stuart Goldbarg is correct. Jesus IS Jewish, not was. Whether the Hierarchy was appointed by Pilate or not, the Bible lists them as Jews, so Jews. Do I blame all Jews for what a few did? G-d forbid. Nor do I believe Mr. Goldbarg would blame me, a Christian, for what others do that is clearly wrong. The Bible says quite plainly that Jesus is at the right hand of G-d (Mark 16:19). Jesus said He would come back and take us to be with Him (John 14:1-3). He was speaking to His disciples, true, but I (and many like me) believe it a promise to all true followers of His. And there is/shall be a great multitude from every nation in Heaven (Rev. 7:9). 144,000 from every tribe of the sons of Israel (Rev. 7:4) listed by tribe name - Judah, Reuben, Gad, Asher, Naphtali, Manasseh, Simeon, Levi, Issachar, Zebulun, Joseph, Benjamin (using the English versions of their names, apologies to any that offends). But, please, this isn't about these things. This posting is about the division of land given to the descendants of Israel (Jacob, again, sorry for the English version of the name). If one wishes to discuss further our differing beliefs, please view my profile and email me. Shalom. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 1) G-d does not "hate fags", He hates sin. 2) Jesus was crucified by the Romans, at the behest of the Jewish hierarchy. Many, many Jews were followers of Jesus. But, if you want the truth, Jesus died on that cross because of me. I put Him there, because of my sins. It's as if I myself drove those nails through his hands and feet. 3) The 144,000 Jewish virgins are the Tribulation witnesses of G-d's love for the world. For those who have read the Bible, think of them as 144,000 Apostle Pauls. Many will come to salvation because of them. But they are not the only ones in heaven. There is a multitude beyond counting there, Jewish and Christian. You cannot just read the Bible, you have to read with understanding. Don't just look at the words, but dig into what they mean. And I mean all of it, not just the Tanakh or the Christian part. And please remember, even if someone calls themselves a Christian doesn't mean it's true. Hatred is not of G-d. Jesus himself said there will be many who call him lord and he will tell them, "Depart from Me. I never knew you." If you want, read Matthew 25:31-46. Jesus was Jewish. He was a Jew's Jew. His mother's name was Miriam (not Mary). He studied Torah. He wore his tallit (garment with tzi-tzit so the Word of G-d would ever be before his eyes). He had a Bar Mitzvah (which is why he was at the Temple at the age of 12). He kept the feasts, all of them. The L-rd's Supper was a Peshach meal. Lastly, I ask that you not just believe me. Please dig into it for yourselves. "Study to show yourselves approved." May the L-rd bless and keep you all the days of your lives. Shalom. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Just wanted to add my thanks to the Obama administration for turning it's back on the one true friend America has in the Middle East. Remember this time when the Muslims build a minaret on top of the Washington Monument and sharia law takes hold in our "Democratic" country. All together now: "Thanks Obama". 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 DTM - One reason springs instantly to mind. Their is no such thing as a Palestinian. Another reason, there is no such place as Palestine. Whoo - another reason, the "occupation" is an Islamic/Hollywood/Liberal lie that you are believing. First reason - the so-called Palestinians are really Arabs. They have been given many concessions by the Israelis, who want only peace in return. What do they get? Attacks. Don't believe me? True anyway. Else, why would Arafat, when handed large tracts of land for peace by the Israeli government, refuse and demand more? Second reason - "Palestine" was put on maps circa 400BC by cartographers. They did this in response to orders from the leaders of the day, mainly the heads of the Catholic church, during a wave of anti-semitism. Don't believe me? True anyway. Third reason - Israel was given their land by G-d in an eternal, unbreakable-by-man, covenant. Doesn't matter whether you believe it or not, it's still true. Due to various unrighteous acts, they were dispersed by G-d to the four corners of the globe. But He promised them He would bring them back. He did in 1948. Their land, belongs to them ,and they are back in it. If the Arabs (not Palestinians) need land, why don't other Arabic countries give it to them? Because, Islamic Arabs don't want Israel to exist. They want Jerusalem for themselves based on a lie. They say their prophet left earth from the Temple Mount (which they still admitted was called the Temple Mount because of Solomon's temple as late as 1928). He never went to Jerusalem, except possibly in a dream. Even that isn't for sure, since all this is based on "the farthest mosque" dream Mohammed supposedly had. Which couldn't be Israel or Jerusalem, since when he supposedly had the dream, there was no mosque in Israel. No, the real reason the Arabs aren't being accepted into other Arab countries is simple. Muslims cannot admit anything is greater than them or their religion. So, as long as Israelis hold Israel and Jeruslam (Israel's capital), which Muslims once held, then they have to admit they lost to people who aren't Islamic. Think it through. Look at their chant "Allahu Ackbar" (however that is spelled) - Allah is greater. Greater than who? Why, Allah (known to the rest of the world by his true name, Satan) has always wanted to be greater than G-d. So, that liar and father of all liars, Satan/Allah, has his followers chant Allah is greater. And why do they chant it so much? Because, if a lie is repeated often enough, people start believing it. And I think Muslims are basically trying to convince themselves first, then the rest of the world. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Why would one want to revise (hence revisionist investigation) history? One must realize the truth. The tally of Holocaust deaths not only came from Jewish sources, but from the paperwork of the Nazi government. One thing you can say about the Nazis, they kept excellent records, down to the last shoe taken off the bodies, the last gold tooth pulled from the corpses, and the last amount of skin Eva Braun used to make her lamp-shades. Please don't fall for the idea all this didn't happen. It did, and to quote my Jewish brothers, "Never Again." 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Seems people are forgetting one small fact in this discussion: there are no such things as Palestinians. Not in the past, not now, and not in the future, Lord willing. What the world/media calls Palestinians are nothing more than Arabs. Small history lesson: circa 400AD, during a wave of anti-Semitism, the leaders of the time (unfortunately including the church) forced cartographers to replace the names Israel and Judea on maps with the word Palestine (based on the Biblical word Philistine). Also unfortunately, that name stuck. So, like I said, there are no Palestinians. Don't take my word for it, though, I urge investigation on your own. No matter how many times the lie is told, or how many media/governmental/Hollywood talking heads use the word, Palestinians are not a people. The people in question are Arabs. Now, moving on, why give Arabs land in Israel? Why not have them move to Arab countries? Because Muslims don't want to admit they have been lying. If the Arabs in question (AIQ from now on), are in place and living in seeming squalor, then the Muslim leaders can drum up hatred toward Israel and keep world opinion against Israelis. And as long as there are AIQ in Israel, then the Muslim leaders can keep up the fiction of Mohammed going to Jerusalem, and the land is theirs, etc. What the world needs to do is stop listening to Muslim lies about the AIQ, and Jerusalem, and how they are a "religion of peace". The world needs to stop attacking Israel with words, and peace processes, etc., etc., ad nauseum. Israel owns the land. Given it in an eternal, unbreakable-by-man covenant with their Lord. Arabs need to get out and stay out. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Wow, such a fuss made over such a simple thing. Please understand the Rabbi was doing what he thought right. Rabbi, I support your decision to reach out as you did. I pray others will support you and not slap you down. Shalom. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Typical. Israel agrees to a cease-fire, and as they honor it, they are attacked. So much for any Muslim honoring the cease-fire. And it will not last, not as long as the world allows Iran, and other countries like it, to support Hamas and other terrorists groups. Hamas will re-arm and start shooting again. No Islamic country/terrorist group wants to let Israel exist. Like rabid animals, they will continue to attack Israel as long as Israel exists. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I believe Israel was winning, but they had their legs cut out from under them by the rest of the world. Now we have Hamas, who was being bombed back to the Stone Age, saying they won. I think Israel should have finished the job. Then there would be no question. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Yes, truly scary stuff. People celebrating the fact that their homeland is winning in a war it didn't want. Want to know what's scarier? When world governments and people protest that country protecting itself from undeserved and unwarranted attacks which have gone on almost from the very second the country was formed. Or how about numerous resolutions by the UN against that country for protecting its citizens? That's scary. Or how about the media and the general population of this world buying the lies being fostered by the Islamic countries and their Liberal friends? Like the one about there actually being Palestinians, instead of what they truly are, Arabs. Or how about the one like there never was a Holocaust? Or the one where Islam is actually a "religion of peace"? Yeah, that's much scarier. At least in the eyes of someone who doesn't believe the lies being vomited forth by the UN, the bulk of the media, the Islamic countries and groups, and their Liberal friends. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I am tired of people blaming Israel for this war. Hamas started it and they will continue it unless the IDF totally dismantles Hamas and removes completely its ability to attack Israel. And don't blame Israel for Arabs (not Palestinians, since they are nothing more than Arabs) getting hurt in Gaza. If they weren't on Israeli land, they wouldn't be getting hurt. Blame Hamas (and its backers in Iran) who uses children and other non-combatants as shields. They attack from the cover of schools, hospitals, homes, etc. And when Israel gets tired of the attacks and strikes back, who get hurt? Hamas? No, they've already packed up their "Iraqi gun-ships" (old pick-up trucks) and moved to the next location. Non-combatants get hurt, and the international community weeps for them. Who weeps for the Israeli innocents hurt in the attacks? Who stands up for Israel? Who backs Israel? I think the world should. We should unite with Israel and force, by any means necessary, the total disarmament of all Islamic forces. Wherever they may be. Then, and only then, will Israelis have a lasting peace. Other than that, we must wait on the Messiah, who will bring peace. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00