richard dent http://jta.org/user/profile/58091 en-us rcsillag@jta.org Copyright 2009 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 THIS QUOTE BELOW IS VERY TELLING. IN FACT, ISRAEL WAS VERY LIBERAL IN ALLOWING PRISON VISITS, ETC. UNTIL THEY RECENTLY SAW HOW CRUEL HAMAS/GAZANS WERE TREATING THE SHALIT SITUATION, WITH ABSOLUTELY NO HELP FROM THE IRC. REMEMBER, TOO, THAT FOR MANY DECADES THE IRC ALLOWED THE "RED CRESCENT" AS A MEMBER BUT FORBADE THE "MAGEN DAVID." "The report rapped Israel for stopping Red Cross-facilitated visits with their relatives in Israeli prisons, though it made no mention of the fact that Hamas has refused to allow any contact between captured Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit and either the Red Cross or his family. Shalit has been held in Gaza for three years since being abducted in a cross-border raid." 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I agree that sinking it is not a good idea. However, this melodramatic "supply" is bogus and perpetuates the lie that the people of Gaza are starving and dying of disease left and right. Adequate medical supplies, food, necessities are regularly delivered. If there was real mass starvation or and epidemic you can be sure it would be widely broadcast. The false cries of "genocide" are the sounds of hatred and opportunism. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 To Terry Row: The "Professor" didn't question Israel's policies, he browbeat students and violated academic principles. Some people seem to think that there is no boundary to their conduct if it is anti-Israel, and if anyone complains, they claim they are being unfairly accused of antisemitism. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 There were heavy AA batteries guarding the death camps? News to me. George McGovern was a US B-24 pilot in WWII. He has commented that he basically passed over the camps to and from other missions, but never got the orders to bomb the camps (forget the tracks, destroy the camps.) I don't see that anyone has let the anti-immigration Repubs. off the hook, or Stalin. But the leaders of the free world surely could have done more. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The court rejected the "sick" claim because of video showing him quite active (when not posing as an invalid.) The conviction in Israel was overturned only because he wasn't the worst "Ivan" only a second tier mass murderer. It doesn't suggest he was the innocent he claims to be. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I think Harman has been a victim here, not once but repeatedly. But couldn't she do better than Whiny Davis? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The US State Dept. and intelligence community has a long and sorry streak of antisemitism. This was a put up job to begin with, using some 90 year old World War One law that had not bee used before against legal activities by a couple of lobbyists. The recent hit job on Congresswoman Harman, as norman glaser points out, only adds fuel to the smears. Predictably, there are comments here and elsewhere about how "Jewish power" got these "spies" off the hook. From what I can tell, it is the opposite. If they hadn't been working for AIPAC, their conduct would not have bothered anyone. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Uh, Tony Blair is the "neutral" mediator for the Middle East? The idea that Arab passengers need to be shielded from a map showing Israel is remarkable. Do Jewish/Israeli passengers get maps that show Judea and Samaria? Or how about the West Bank as part of TransJordan and Gaza as part of Egypt. I mean, if we want maps to reflect how we WANT the world to be, not how it really is.... As bad as this is, it isn't the first time I have heard of creative map making. I recall about 20 years ago, a chain of upscale stores (and catalog sales - pre-internet) based in the US call The Sharper Image offered a map or a globe without Israel being identified as Israel. Incredibly, the founder and owner of The Sharper Image was a Jew! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I am confused. The article says: "Shabazz, [who] was in Geneva advocating for slave reparations,..." Doesn't that mean she's trying to get Egypt to pay reparations for the enslavement of the Jews? I guess not? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Sophomoric but on point. The link to the McClatchy report on this includes reader comments that claim it is racist, anti-Arab etc. However, one comment makes the argument that it is really quite similar to what the Palestinian Media/TV puts out (but not as satire), and I agree. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Caryl Churchill (and Tony Kushner): How about a play about this? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 "Total coincidence" says Jeff Stein, on why he just now created this story based on information he's been sitting on. The "intelligence community" is mad at who??? At Harman, but not the legislators who supposedly leaked secret information, and not at their own "security sources" for the story? Yeah, they really care about the USA. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Barbara Lee is acting as usual, but she and the Black Caucus are way off point. Why do they think the Arabs are on their side? Maybe they just find a common ground of anti-Jews...., I mean anti-Zionism. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 sounds like a good idea. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Tell Your Children: That Britain has no freedom in the theatre, that Caryl Churchill can spew hate and lies, but being invited by the British government doesn't mean you can rent the theatre of your choice, that the "threatre spokeswoman" pretends that "protest" means censorship...... 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Mr. Edwards, I can't understand why you would ever have the impression I was an anti-semite. Maybe my sarcasm fell flat. I do try to be even handed, but that doesn't mean I think there is a "cycle of violence" or that there is "equivalence" between Israel's self defense and Arab terror. I have visited Sderot, and saw first hand not only the proximity of danger, but the spirit of the residents. I am a long time AIPAC member, adult Bar Mitzvah, and believe that the sustaining of the State of Israel is crucial to not only the Jewish community, but to the world community. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Is there no end to what the Jews want? Wait a minute, how did this happen in the first place? I thought we already controlled the world. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 They long for the old days when Jordan refused to let in Jews (or Christians). Since Israel took over East Jerusalem in 1967, all faiths have access. The signs are in three languages (Hebrew, Arabic and English.) 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I don't understand why Tamar's posts are unedited. It just doesn't help to spew invective, even if, at least sometimes, it "supports" a point I otherwise agree with. Hey JTA, what about it??? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 After the missiles are launched, Iran will "suspend" its nuke enrichment program. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Wow! According to J Street, the problem on campuses is the pro-Israel "right." I guess the steady demonization by pro-Palestinian and/or anti-Israel (excuse me, anti-Zionist) groups isn't a problem. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Where is the outrage of "moderate" Muslims? Will the UN say anything about this even more than usual deplorable practice? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 This sounds like another Israeli war crime: attacking an unarmed fishing boat. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Maybe Obama will listen to the truth about Iran if the messenger is Egypt rather than Israel. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 This is clearly relevant to what's going on in Israel, and its fight to stop the smuggling into Gaza. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Obama, are you listening? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I think a conviction would shed some light on the hatefulness of this guy. To some who aren't that well informed, like me and most people, this will be meaningful. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Great article in the New Republic about the Jew Haters twisting of the Holocaust into a new narrative that makes the experience creating Israel/Jews that were traumatized into now acting like Nazis and Gaza/Palestinians as the victims. As the author says, it implies that the Holocaust was justified by what Israel is supposedly doing to others now. Glad to see the Jewish/pro-Israel community fighting back in Durban II. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The people who encouraged or supported Anderson's reckless actions should be held accountable. I doubt that will happen, however. Barbara Lee has zero credibility. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Look, this father had a tremendous loss, and was a good guy from the start. But he was repeatedly warned to leave his house, and did not. His support for peace, before and after this tragedy, is admirable. But it hasn't been so influential on the world or the region. I don't see what he has done to qualify him for a Nobel Peace prize. BTW, I did not read Ross Kaplan's comment as equating the accidental killing with a Palestinian terror attack. Neuroshock, sure there a few fanatics in Israel, but Israeli TV isn't saturated with programs, including for young children, demonizing the "Jews" and calling for their murder as a religious imperative. Check out this one, where Hamas has actors dress up as Jews who say things like we have to wash our hands in Muslim blood. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=28f_1239013651 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 This guy doesn't want to go back to Mother Germany? He's already basically escaped all punishment, and lived off of the freedom and prosperity of the USA. Let him take a boat, like California Gringo says. Or he can fly with a doctor on board. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Abbas seems to think the "roadmap" is one-way. He'll do nothing to fulfill his part of the agenda, but blame Israel for not doing its part, which was conditioned on the PA stopping terror and incitement, etc. That said, I agree that for tactical reasons at a minimum, it is time to stop expanding the settlements and at least reduce them. The settlers removed from Gaza shouldn't be living in trailer parks, but that's the fault of the Israeli government. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Mr. A. Lieberman has publicly favored a two state solution, so I am perplexed that J Street attacks his "policies and views" so strenuously. Even on the Arab Israelis, Lieberman has not proposed any large scale transfer, only a largely figurative "oath." 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 How's this for a slogan: Saudi-ism is racism? OK, maybe not, but you get the idea. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Nice comparison. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I agree with the first 3 comments. I wish Tamar would not use such language as "animals." This very story shows that some people who call themselves Palestinians are human inside and out. I'd sure like to see this story get some MSM coverage. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 " ...the adopted text said. "Islam is frequently and wrongly associated with human rights violations and terrorism." " "Wrongly???" That's pretty impressive. I guess it depends on what you call a humans rights violation. For example, driving a car (if you are female), or having your adult nephew get you some bread and bring it to your home (if you are female), which are relatively mild examples of what is a criminal violation in Saudi Arabia. I won't get into honor killings. And then there is "terrorism," which again implies quite a special definition. Flying planes into civilian buildings, suicide/homicide bombers, rocket attacks on civilians, are just what? Oh yeah, "resistance." As to religious defamation, do the countries that support this resolution intend to stop calling Jews pigs and apes? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 So, what's happening to the bongs? Being made kosher for Passover? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 There is far from solid evidence of misconduct by IDF soldiers. Some of what has been reported is that a woman and her child mistakenly turned the wrong way when leaving a house, and so were, sadly, shot and killed. This was in a war zone, where woman have been suicide/homicide bombers, etc. This is not a war crime. There are some second hand reports of some soldiers being excited about doing their jobs. Sure it would be better if each and every one of these mostly 19-20 year olds could be reflective and philosophical about the tragedy of war. Being caught up in the emotions of combat, fear for one's life (booby trapped houses, sniper fire, etc.) is not a war crime. There is substantial evidence of Hamas' entire policy and practice as being, basically a "war crime." Civilian shields, civilian targets, etc. This isn't just "misconduct" it is a campaign of hate and destruction. Let's remember this is the response to Israel LEAVING Gaza. Finally, of course Israel should investigate any misconduct, as they usually do. When is the last time you saw any Palestinian or Arab country investigate anything? Let's put this in perspective. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I guess Roth finds it interesting to "investigate" whether it is a steel knife or a carbon blade that is being stuck in our gut. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Mr Hicks, all I said was that the play was titled "Jewish" children, not "Israeli" children. Your comment doesn't address that at all, but only talks about the "behaviour" of Israelis. My point was directed at the idea that criticism of Israel is not necessarily anti-Jewish, which is true. However some criticism of Israel is anti-Jewish, and Caryl Churchill makes no bones about it. As to the rest, let me say that you can't judge the behavior of Israel in a vacuum, it must be in the context of the threats they have and continue to face. The Arab boycott continues; for crying out loud they won't let a tennis player in Dubai! As to the occupied territories, most of them will be "returned" (in quotes because to return them would mean to Egypt and Jordan) if and when that means a step towards peace and security, not a bigger launching pad for terrorism (bombers, missiles) and a bigger breeding ground of incitement and hatred (Martyr Mouse television show for kids, and Hamas imposing Sharia "law" etc.). 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 This is an anti-Jewish "play," not merely anti-Israel. The title says Jewish, not Israeli children. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Yeah, times change and nations (not always people) are "invented," but they don't claim to have existed for thousands of years before coming into being. No one says that the USA has been around for a thousand years. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Very disappointing from a guy who has done a lot of good stuff. The depiction of Gaza as a woman shielding her baby kind of leaves out the rockets, incitement, suicide bombers, etc., that were the cause of the incursion into Gaza. Stuart, can you link to Oliphant cartoons skewering hamas and fatah? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Tamar, I have no idea if what you say is true, but even if it were, what is so bad about helping Russian Jews? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 While he is "engaging" with Syria, maybe they can provide a map of the heavily mined areas in the Golan Heights. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Well, if the pipe bombs didn't contain phosphorus, I guess it's not so bad. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Israel needs friends. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Let's just focus on the IDF and ignore Hamas. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 professor: The reports of supposed war crimes by Israel in Gaza are unsubstantiated, not confirmed by soldiers. There are some second hand reports of alleged mistakes and maybe even some misconduct by a very few. The war crimes by Hamas are well documented, and in fact not at all denied by Hamas. I agree with you about the importance of stopping the rockets. I think that simply goes back to Hamas (and its sponsors). They are clearly able to stop or start the attacks. As to the rest of the mess, yeah I'm not a big fan of Bibi or Barak, but it looks like Netanyahu has brought into his government two key players who favor a two-state solution. That doesn't sound like a hard-line right wing stance. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Galloway is a disgrace and far outside of a genuine dialog or discussion of the issues. His views are already widely disseminated, but there is no need to give him a platform for more. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 A UN body wanted to (or was willing to) listen to testimony about Sderot? Is that a good sign? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 More information would be helpful as to who did what and when. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Maybe ISM can send some of its "human shields" to protect Fatah officials. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I dunno. The sheep may have been peaceful. The TNT, maybe not. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Sorry Rabbi, apparently you haven't been keeping up with the NYT. Abbas is a moderate peace-seeking guy who only USED to be a terrorist. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Problem solved. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 M.J. Rosenberg has a fairly wide platform. He has a place on "Talking Points Memo" website, which has become quite prominent. As biased as his commentary is, some of the "reader" comments are outright hateful and blatantly anti-Jewish. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Ha Ha Ha. I'd laugh more if the Jews were portrayed by some form of human being. If the Cossacks want to laugh at being played by apes, good for them. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Oh yeah, maybe the Red Cross and Amnesty Intl. can say something about being able to visit Shalit, letting him communicate with his family, etc. like Israel allows its prisoners. .....I'm still waiting. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Cruel people and Shalit and his family suffer. How do the Hamas murderers in Israeli prisons feel? Are they happy to stay in jail as long as Jews suffer? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Obama's conduct on this has been disappointing to say the least. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Jackie Mason has had a great career, and has been a trail blazer for a long time. Lately he has lost a lot of his edge, but I'd give him some slack on this. Personally, I would not use the "s" word, even though my grandparents used it without disparagement. Still, the "s" word is nothing at all like the "n" word, and the outcry on this comedian's usage is way out of proportion. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Coleman proved his lack of ability, and his honesty is in serious question. Let's face it, to lose to first-time candidate Al Franken took some doing. Coleman lost, and should let Franken take his seat and represent Minnesota. We will see if Franken has the stuff. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Let the pope show up dressed as he pleases. Too many religions/states are demonizing and isolating Israel and the Jewish people. This visit is a good thing! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Incredible lack of journalistic standards. It's like visiting a Soviet-era eastern bloc state, with guards and snoops all around. No one thought a Westerner could get the truth in such circumstances, why does Cohen insist he got it now? Kudos to the ex-pats and Rabbi Wolpe. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 On a visit to Israel, I went to an educational/historical exhibit that was funded by Davidson. Also, he served kosher hot dogs in the arena. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 There are two distinct issues. One is how Shalit was kidnapped. I see no reason to disbelieve the official version, which does not includesurrender. The other issue is how much time, energy and release of murderers should be devoted to getting back this victim. I'm in no position to say, but I think it is a legitimate issue. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 What a surprise! How can they let Shalit go? They'd lose the subject for their indecent and cruel "entertainment," like the "skit" of pleading for his release and laughter from the crowd. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 This is a school in the USA, so the government has a role. There are standards of accuracy and civics that apply to all schools, including this one. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Let's lighten up on Jackie! He's been bold and insightful for a long time, even if he has lost much of his edge in recent years. He used to say stuff about Jews that no one else would say. And come on, the "s" word is nowhere near the "n" word. Jackie deserves some slack. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 a little good news on the "academic" front. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Hey, the Reform Jew is not the most lethal enemy of Israel. I am a Reform Jew, and I am a stalwart supporter of Israel and Judaism. Let's not overdo our internal disagreements. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Why do people post on JTA if all they have to say is one-sided and inaccurate criticism of Israel? I find it hard to believe these are anything but trolls. In fact, Israel is fighting for its life, and Hillary (French Kiss) Clinton is the sham some of us were worried she was. She just takes on poses. I happen to favor a two state solution, and a viable Palestinian state, but I don't see how that can happen when Hamas indoctrinates little kids with TV shows like Martyr Mouse, and spends its resources on building rockets and suicide vests, rather than a real economy. Their imposition of Sharia "law" was certainly not voted for in Gaza, and their essentially martial law is hardly in keeping with any "international law." Yes, yes, Israel is not perfect, and I disagree with many of its policies and tactics. The semi-blockade of Gaza is a bad idea, in my opinion, as is bull dozing homes of terrorists' families (if that is still happening). But there has to be some context. The article was about Clinton, and by extension the Obama policy. I supported Obama, and still do, but some recent moves have given me pause. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 why was he appointed before being vetted? Seems odd. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Let's shine a bright light on this murky guy. What's already known is plenty disturbing. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Verrry funny! check it out. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 She was so great as a 10 year old. in Parent Trap. What happened? (I know, never mind.) Anyway, I doubt she'll stick with Judaism very long. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Germany, to an impressive extent, has demonstrated an understanding of how damaging its hate culture was to itself and to others. Not many countries really get it. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I was in Sderot last April, the same day as Jimmy Carter. The residents deserve our support. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Good move! I'm cautiously optimistic that Obama will steer a decent course, even if he takes longer to get to the best decision. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Nuking Iran is not practical, not moral at this point, and not needed. Other tactics may be necessary. I can't imagine that Iran only wants nuclear power for "peaceful" purposes. They have more oil than could be used in many lifetimes, so why go nuclear? Plus, why keep building longer range missiles? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I thought there were 1.5 million people in Gaza. But don't get me wrong, I don't see why this kind of dough should be paid without some conditions like hey, no more rocket attacks, no knee-capping of "Fatah"/political opponents, no imposition of Sharia "law," etc. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 "insane" and "commie"? I disagree but those are appropriate words. "shvartza"? Come on, that's just low class. You can do better. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Banning the book isn't going to help anything, but sure, let him peacefully say what he wants. He just shouldn't do it as a cartoon. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Gee, he's sorry he told what he considers the truth. Some apology! It's too bad the Pope can't do better. But I don't see this as a reason to break off relations. Israel has to maintain what ties it can in an unfriendly world. More isolation won't help. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I agree that the world doesn't seem to notice or care about Hamas' violations of the so-call "cease-fire." But I think the tactic of taking land and otherwise trying to pressure the general population of Gaza (like bulldozing houses) has not and will not work. It is exactly what Hamas wants, because the people don't get the linkage, or don't think it's justified. Continued pressure on the world community, and attacking the smuggling tunnels to show Israel will do something plays out much better. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Let's hope Obama/Holder lets this case go dormant. There are real problems in the world to deal with. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I read that Amnesty Intl recently criticized Hamas for terrorizing Fatah members. I thought maybe AI had seen the light. This latest report is more of the same old. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I agree with the substance of the two comments before mine, but I don't see Kerry's protest against the US war in Vietnam as relevant or, for my money, grounds to criticize him. A lot of people protested peacefully, as did Kerry. I think history has shown them to have been correct. William Ayers, on the other hand, was and apparently remains a flaming egomaniac with a penchant for violence. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The patent cruelty of Hamas, evident in so many ways, is on stark display with Shalit.. This should be an easy one, even for France. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Andy Roddick showed a lot of class. Venus Williams showed a little class, but still better than most. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Some great comments, BUT "gunned down"???? That sounds like how Hamas is treating Fatah in Gaza. We can do better. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Good for the Tennis Channel! Maybe this will make some people think a little more about letting the tournament proceed, etc. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 If it's a pastoral visit, then he might want to pay some attention to the Christians who have been oppressed and/or kicked out of various Arab states. Gaza? Hey, he can check out Sharia law. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Well, I guess the Jewish community can't do anything to help anyone without being accused of it being a transparent cynical ploy. Tell that to the people in Darfur, maybe they'll ask the synagogues and Rabbis to stop speaking out, etc.. I didn't say legitimate criticism of Israel should be replaced by addressing the actual genocides elsewhere (Congo, et al), but it is curious when some people care only about suffering caused by Israel's mis-deeds (real and imagined) but lose interest in other suffering. So much (not all) of the recent protests against Israel's attack on Gaza were patently anti-Jew (antisemitic)--not anti-Israel. There is no other way to interpret epithets like "go back to the ovens," and signs blaming "Jews" (or "Juice" - I didn't make that up), or even caricature face masks (hook nose) eating babies (dolls) which was photographed in London. Guess what else? Israel is NOT the only country/people getting substantial US and Western aid. Try Egypt and Jordan for relevant starters get direct US $$$. Egypt is a dictatorship. Jordan is ruled not by democracy and not by majority. Neither is treating the Palestinians very well, and neither wants to take back the West Bank or Gaza that they controlled until 1967. Saudi Arabia gets a form of aid through cartel inflated oil prices (and buys huge weaponry stocks, but keeps the culture, especially the women, quite repressed.) So yeah, I think Israel deserves a little Valentine love. You don't have to be perfect to be loved. Who is? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 A-Rod is being singled out why? Anti-semitism!!!! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Israel shall survive and flourish. Hey Miriam, look around. There are far worse parts of the world, with actual genocide today. But those you can only focus on Israel/Jews don't care about suffering in Sudan/Darfur, Congo, China/Tibet, etc. Many don't care about suffering by Arabs and Palestinians unless allegedly at the hands of Israel (Jews). This trivializes the suffering of others and drowns out the legitimate points of criticism of the actions of the State of Israel. You're right, Never Again is inclusive. Have you failed to notice the country-wide/world wide Jewish call to conscience in Darfur? I haven't seen anything like that from mosques. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 May she recover and live a long time more. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Good, wave a little carrot at Fredo. Maybe something will develop. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 How old would Herr Heim be now, if he was still alive? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Jews sure are touchy. Upset just because of an accusation of causing mass murder, terror and being greedy. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 What a bunch of grandstanding "activists" undermining the actual efforts to help those in Gaza who need it, many of whom are victims of Hamas. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 they also could have a spot showing Hamas terror against Palestinians in Gaza. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 JEWISH "guilt and shame" about the Holocaust??? Critics of Holocaust denial are driven by money to keep "their institutions afloat"?? Good grief! What is this Rabbi talking about? This is irrational blame the victim stuff spouted usually by the deniers or minimizers of the Holocaust. I do agree that anger may not be the best reaction, and the expectation that the Vatican will fix its error is a good first response. That assumes that the Catholic Church is capable of managing its billion or so membership and organization. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Nicely written piece. This is in the Guardian? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 This is just politics. I do like her on the merits and think she'd be better than Bibi. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 If UNRWA is complaining, there must really be a problem. Will the UN or Amnesty Intl investigate this? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Will the NYT publish this story? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Gee, wouldn't it be nice to see the UN, or Amnesty International, saying something about Shalit being held incommunicado? Isn't that a "war crime"?? Or just a crime? And isn't the Hamas "skit" of a month or so ago, mocking Shalit's family, indecent? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Israel needs a leader far better than Bush was for the US. I agree that Israel must be strong, but it also must be smart. Bush's policies and tactics were a decidedly mixed bag, and could have easily been much better if he had not been so dogmatic and tied to money making pals. Let's hope Netanyahu can stay focused. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I don't think that all criticism of Israel comes from antisemitism. But, if "Israel" is the object of criticism, then why are "Jews" attacked? antisemitism? Just asking. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Yes, it is good to see some rationality from Muslims, and some distinction between Jews and Israel. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Imagine if someone said they had "no position" on whether El Baradei had a right to exist. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I hate to sound paranoid, but is this a "false flag" desecration? If this is really from people who think they support Israel, they should know better. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 George Mitchell should also be looking for the steroids that the terrorists in Gaza and Iran are taking. ( I'm half serious. Some act pretty jacked up, like they have 'roid rage.) 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Most of the UN resolutions condemn Israel. Here is one that is supposed to foster peace and security, but is it effective? Doesn't look like it. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 How about some controls on the "construction equipment" so it doesn't turn into munitions. How about the release of Shalit through the "open" borders? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Racism is a real problem in this world. It is a shame that the issue is being so mis-used. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Hey, every body has to make a buck, or a deutschmark, or a euro or whatever. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Larry Craig? I though it was Larry David, using his own name. The show "Loving Leah" was actually not bad in its portrayals of Jews and secular/religious lives. Essman did ok. Her remarks on the View are kind of stupid, though. In the TV show, the widow was quite attractive, even in modest garb. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I hope Sarkozy can do something. Where is Amnesty International?? Where is the International Red Cross? Why no protests about the fact that Shalit is being held incommunicado, contrary to International law (and unlike prisoners held by Israel)? Why no protests about the "skit" Hamas held mocking the anguish over Shalit's kidnapping and confinement? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Don't be so harsh on Carter. I just learned from this article that he gave Hamas' leaders material on nonviolent resistance in a meeting last year. Of course, now I'm wondering just what these materials said. I don't remember that Ghandi and Martin Luther King decided to hide behind children, mosques and hospitals, while shooting rockets at civilians, etc. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 When was it decided that America's top priority was to be a "fair negotiator," and what's more, that such required it to pretend that Hamas' aggression and Israel's defense were somehow equivalent? America's interests are served by supporting its allies and opposing its enemies. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Sadly, I don't think Hamas will ever release Shalit. It is just toying with the hearts of his family and other compassionate people. Their recent "skit" was such up-front cruelty, they will want to make it a series. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Any "occupation" of buildings to protest what's going on in the Congo? Sudan? How about for what Hamas is doing to the people of Gaza? I don't think they voted for Sharia law, oppression of women, suppression of all dissent and culture, etc.? Hey, what about the Palestinians suffering in Lebanon? Don't take my word for it, According to the NYT on 1/22/09, a newspaper editor in Kuwait, Mohammad al-Rahuaihi said: "We have written many times, 'If Hesbollah loves the Palestinians so much they want to fight Israel, why can't they fight to give the Palestinians human rights in Lebanon?'" 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 And another thing, the Holocaust had millions of victims in addition to Jews. Couldn't Catalonia have a partial remembrance for them? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I guess it's ok to link the Holocaust to Israel if you criticize Israel, but otherwise veboten. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 wonderful fellow, and story. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Yeah, wrong-doing on both sides but let's go after Israel. Thanks, UNRWA, for your usual one-sided stance. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Even somebody at the UN said that Hamas' conduct of civilian shields, no uniforms, etc. was illegal. Has anyone suggested Hamas be considered for "war crimes"??? What about all the vocal critics of Israel in the international "community."??? OK, rhetorical question. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Does the UN, or anyone, have any interest in forcing Hamas to comply with UN resolutions and prior PA commitments about disarming, giving up terrorism, incitement, etc.? (Just asking.) 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 This father deserves sympathy. He isn't some Hamas leader outfitting his kids with suicide vests. Sure, Hamas is the root cause, but if Israel made a mistake, it should say so. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Hamas is running some government! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The comments from "Heeb" publisher Neuman are far worse than those from Ms. Love. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 What???? The Palestine Solidarity Committee made a distinction between Jews and Israel? Is that real? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Some people are all too eager to use their Jewish identity to publicly criticize Israel. They have the same double standard as the UN and much of the international community. But thank goodness there are supporters of Israel everywhere, including far up above. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 to Fernando: It's not clear if the Hamas tactics of civilian shields, and hiding behind and under mosques, hospitals and white flags was successful in inducing enough terrible loss of civilian life to make a rational analysis impossible. However, in no way does Israel want the people of Gaza to leave. Please remember that none of the Arab countries wants the Palestinians; not Egypt, not Jordan, not Lebanon. In fact, the West Bank doesn't want those in Gaza. Israel sure doesn't want 1.5m additional Arabs in Israel. My take is that Israel didn't prefer the destruction, but to counter the Hamas strategy and limit the casualties to the IDF, it destroyed a lot more property than it wanted to initially. At this point, Israel wants Gaza rebuilt with involvement of Egypt, and some of the Western countries, and of course the PA. Maybe the hope of a peaceful and prosperous Gaza can be revived. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Are these boycotts legal in Britain? Someone call Gordon Brown. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Israel did as much as it could given the time constraints and the cruel tactics of Hamas. Let's see if the new US President can carry this forward. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Which side wants to extinguish the flame of learning? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Let's see, the Israelis had no problem patronizing a Muslim business, but the cafe owner kicked them out. Amazing. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The NYT today had no pix of damage to Israel/Israelis, but several of damage in Gaza. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Great idea! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 It would be nice to see more of this. A good step. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 If this author (Susser) is going to keep writing such good articles, a lot of the comments will be limited to "good job." Well, maybe that's ok. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I think Jon Stewart is usually right on, and he is influential. I am very disappointed with this move on his part, and his recent comments about the supposed power of Aipac/lobby to prevent any criticism of Israel in US politics. Stewart is out front as being Jewish, which I like, but not when he turns it into yet another "Jew against Israel's "over-reaction" voice. Ken Price quite succinctly recites some of the key facts showing the ignorance of Stewart. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I have no sympathy for Hamas, but I don't agree that all food should be withheld from the population of Gaza. It doesn't advance the interests of Israel to do so, not morally or tactically. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Good for Livni in pressing the Intl Red Cross to treat Shalit the same as other prisoners. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 spooky stuff. there will always be an England. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Mr. Walk raises a good question that is not given much attention in the Reform and perhaps the larger Jewish community. It deserves analysis. There is really nothing "Jewish" about the gay marriage issue, and certainly nothing in Jewish law or tradition that supports the attack on natural/traditional definition of marriage and family. Typically, the rationale cited for this and other political and social causes is "justice" or "tikkun olam." Sometimes it's relatively clear: Darfur seems to be a good example. There is no conflict between Jewish law and custom and trying to stop genocide and basic human sufferering. But this general concept is stretched in whatever direction someone wants. Some Jews cite "tikkun olam" as a basis for opposing what I consider to be the right of the State of Israel to exist, and to defend itself. Mr. Walk's distinction between what is appropriate for Jewish political organizations as distinct from Jewish religious organizations makes sense to me. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 For whatever reasons, Bush did put attention to antisemitism. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I am mostly glad to see this, especially as to Sudan, but I am also worried about "divestment" as a strategy since Israel is such a frequent target. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 At first I was going to make a little fun of this, but on second thought, a National Voodoo Day might be a step up. Not much else is working in the world. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Bin Laden's "concern" for his Palestinian "brothers" is recent and contrived. The situation in Israel/Palestine wasn't even mentioned as a reason for the 9/11 attacks. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Bush got off the podium? Was this observed by anyone? Olmert's story sounds fishy. Of course, if it were true, why "brag" about it? Why embarrass the US Sec. of State? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Very interesting report. The soldiers have a tough job, and are doing it well. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 A taped message from his hiding place? From there, it must look rosy. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 As if we needed more evidence of the need for a Jewish state. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 We lost a good one. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Lanny Davis?? Do we really need a whining strident face for Israel? He has zero credibility, which he reinforced with his various appearances supporting Hillary during the primary campaign. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Scary stuff in Europe, and in the USA. Great NYT mock up cover! 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Hey, this poor fellow was probably a member of J Street. But antisemites don't care. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 How about some pressure on Amnesty Internatiional and the Intl. Red Cross to demand access to Shalit? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Channi, I agree with your comments about Hamas' illegal terror tactics, but I can't agree that there are no civilians in Gaza. Hamas was elected in parliament (not the executive) on a minority vote because Fatah/PA ran too many candidates and was known for corruption. Hamas then took over Gaza by force, and has refused to use its resources to better the lives of the many people there. Sure, plenty may sympathize with Hamas, especially with the constant demonization of Israel (Martyr Mouse tv for kids) but most would not take up violence, and would only want to live their lives in peace. Ben Calo: You must be referring to what the USA did to the Native Americans. I guess you would approve if the NA's strapped on bomb vests and blew up pizza parlors in Cleveland or Atlanta. As for ethnic cleansing, that's what the Arab states have done. No or only a remnant of Jews left. And they're pushing the Christians out. A million Arabs are Israeli citizens. How many Jews could safely live in "Palestine"? By the way, why are you on JTA? Just to spew? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 The UN has been part of the problem, always blaming Israel and not stopping Hamas from using it as one of the civilian "shields." It is certainly a problem of appearance, but I hope Israel will continue to educate anyone who is willing to listen. From what I have seen, Israel has been willing to allow assistance to the wounded. I believe the policy of imposing a "diet" on Gaza is counterproductive, but it is far from genocide. And let's remember that Hamas has had no problem supplying itself with munitions and other weapons, but not medicine and food for the people it controls. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Can we get Madoff to convert to some other religion? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Yes, the IDF and the majority of the citizens of Israel have done a difficult job very well. I agree that more aid is timely, and if the decent cease-fire can be arranged, that sounds good to me. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Hamas rejects the truce. Surprise. Where is the condemnation of Hamas for so doing? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Glad to see some people on the street for Israel. The pro-Palestine demos have mostly been full of hateful rhetoric, as have many comments on blogs. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 J Street had a chance to show it really supported Israel and completely muffed it. It seems to be more concerned about criticizing Israel and showing the world that some Jews are "ok." Hey, none of Israel's supporters, including at the "all-powerful" Aipac, likes the suffering of the Gazan civilians. No one in Israel is happy that Hamas smuggles in guns and rockets but has no interest in food or building an economy. Let's stay focused. The world is erupting in lies and demonization of Israel. Read the signs of the protesters: "From the river to the sea, Palestine must be free." Get it J Street? It's about the very existence of Israel, not about "disproportionality." 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I'm no fan of Iran, but getting to all their nuclear sites may be beyond the capacity of Israel. This isn't Iraq of decades ago. The sites are spread out and fortified/underground. I'm not sure Israel even knows where all of them are. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Jews are being killed in various countries, regardless of whether they have any political affiliation, and might even be among the Jewish "pro-Palestinian" contingent. Jewish institutions are the target of Arab hate. But if we say that antisemitism is even a part of the motivation of the anti-Israel conduct and speech, the response is that we are playing the "race card." Even when Jonnie Cochran got OJ Simpson off with a bogus claim of racism, it didn't mean there was no racism in the US anymore. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Very thoughtful piece. I support Israel,imperfect as it is, and the unique "standard" to which it is supposed to adhere is manifestly unfair. Yet as the author points out, some of these tactics have never worked. The "sanctions/embargo" needs to be substantially loosened. The general population of Gaza, having been fed only one side of the story for decades, will never blame Hamas for shortages of life's basic necessities. What's the point? 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Hey, about that "full humanitarian access" -- what about some Red Cross access to Galil Shalit? Even the worst child murderers and terrorists in Israeli jails have contact with the Red Cross and their families. Hamas, instead, hides Shalit and recently mocked him in one of its public demonstrations. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 I can't agree. That's shouldn't be the goal and it will never happen. And god help us if we accomplished it. Be strong, and show our enemies that peaceful conduct is the only option. Maybe some hearts and minds will change, too. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00 Gee, isn't this a "disproportionate response"? Besides being a completely illogical one, as the first comment shows. 2009-11-20T;16:30:00-05:00