Alex Golan http://jta.org/user/profile/20180 en-us moster@jta.org Copyright 2009 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 What is this - a political Rorschach test? Please explain to me what the difference was between Hitler and Goering, and now between Abu Mazen Abbas, Salam Fayyad and Hamas? But when all else fails, blame the Jews - even if you are Jewish! Self-hate is always a ticket to politically correct high society! 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 Could you ghetto-Jews explain to me why justified criticism of the Messianic B. Hussein Obama is incitement to rioting and murder while the vilifications and distortions of George Bush's were considered normal expressions of disagreement? To the best of my memory nobody in the NYT, the birdcage paper of record, was worried that a second John Hinckley would try to assassinate G.W.Bush due to the smears in the DailyKos and other assorted radical left-wing blogs. As usual, there is no left-wing extremism that could not be mainstreamed by the media. Kumbaya, Obama, Kumbaya! 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 To Michael "Slow" Lerner, Alice Walker, David, their staunch defender et al! Tell me something new. Your responses to anything that smacks of Jewish nationalism and strong defense of Israel, its survival and vital interests is automatically negative. You could program a robot to give your benighted comments. What y'all refuse to see is that since times immemorial only strength counted when survival is at stake. You bleat like ewes from behind your posh desks and expect the enemy to come and kiss you little cheeks, both face and buttocks, because you are sooo peace-loving. Wake up, you dummy dhimmis! This is not your mamele's kindergarten, a stage where you have remained fixated for your adult life! To Thomas Roberts - Yashar Ko'ach! 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 To Will Edwards! The question is, on what planet do you live? Your beloved Democratic party manages their divisiveness and racism very well, beginning with their beloved Leader in the White House. When someone calls them out for this they accuse the Republicans of these crimes. Just like Goebbels and Stalin - after all Socialist all think alike, whether they are National-Socialist, Communists or (Social-)Democrats like you. Always accuse and smear your enemy with the brush that you deserve to be tarred. You have one advantage, however. You can't be brainwashed any more - after all you have nothing left to be washed. Shalom and Shanah Tovah to y'all! 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 Please, explain to me what is so surprising - blacks being racist and anti-Semites or Jews trying to kiss up to their "brothers" in the Democratic Party? If our brethren had any sense of self-worth and national pride they would have left the Social-Democrats long ago and not voted for the Messiah, ...er, B. Hussein Obama in their customary droves. But evidently being part of an ideology is more important to them. Just like the Ghetto-Jews of yore, who would have somebody spit in their face and claim "it was raining!" 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 Goldstone is a "worthy" successor to the Judenratlers and Jewish Kapos that served the Nazis faithfully until their own demise. 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 I can only state concerning the three stooges of anti-Israeli hate mail above - stick it in your ear or any appropriate orifice. With apologies to Larry, Curly and Moe, your collective IQ of understanding what is going on in Gaza and the murderous thugs that rule it is in the single digits. Go and live in Sderot under constant rocket attacks for one week and then bewail the "evil" retaliation of Israel. You wouldn't survive one hour and run screaming back to your mummies. The absurdity of it all is the fact that in Darfur and the Congo more innocent people are killed daily than in the whole Gaza action, yet the UN feels only compelled morally to condemn Israel for any trumped-up accusation. As long as such decisions are foregone conclusions, as they have been since the UN has existed, Israel should refuse access to any of these international anti-Semites. BTW, Biting Dawg - in order to comply with truth in advertising you should rename yourself Mangy Bitch. 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 To Jack Jackson! Your depth of dumbth is only superseded by your blind ideological idiocy. To argue with you would be a waste of time. Just try to answer a simple question that even a creature with a single digit IQ like you might get right: Whose disarmament would bring peace to the world - Israel and the USA vs. Iran and N-Korea? Finally, for your own edification Ihope that you encounter your "retail terrorist" and enjoy the experience. Maybe then you will wake up to the realities of these murderers because right now you don't know Jack Sh..! 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 I will respond to St. Stupid's, AKA Jimmy Carter, expectorations only this one time. This poorest excuse for a president is an anti-Semite, senile and irrelevant. Accordingly, he deserves to be ignored and relegated to the trash heap of history, certainly not given the honor of an editorial or the recognition of a response. The only reason he can still smile his toothy grin is, that the current occupier of the White House is on track to be worse than him. 'nough said! 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 For mealy-mouthed peaceniks like DeLee and Ehrens are spouting the same tiresome phrases and continue the same dumb and useless approaches that have failed since time immemorial. Their universal solution never included to forcefully confront rogues and tyrants like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and now Ahmadinejead. Lest we forget - It was St. Stupid, AKA Jimmy Carter, who bumbling foreign policies permitted the rise of the Mullahs in Iran and their political thugs. For all you peaceniks, here is a recent bumper sticker: IMAGINE WORLD PEACE - IMAGINE WHIRLED PEAS - IMAGINE WHORLED PISS! I think the last line fits you guys to a P! 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 Tsk, Tsk, Tsk! Our honorable brethren on the left, like Wieseltier (BTW-means "weasel" in German), the Emmanuel brothers, Axelrod and their ilk, are not self-hating Jews but simply representative of the mindset of the American Jews who live in their golden ghettos, fawned over by the pseudo- intelligentsia and assorted glitterati. Where Israel is concerned they are sooo open-minded - that their brains are falling out. 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 Rabbi Saperstein has and always will place leftist ideology over Jewishness. Just a few questions to the honorable rabbi: 1] Since when do rabbis from every stream of Jewish life not include orthodox rabbis?- I assume when this is not convenient for our messianic president and his Jewish toadies. 2] Could Rabbi Saperstein, the noted Torah scholar, please point out the passage where community obligations are to be transferred to the "benign" bureaucratic auspices of the government?- The mantra of 47 million uninsured which, in the scholarly math of our benighted rabbi, suddenly balloned to 80 million is nothing but a chimera to enable ever more government intrusion into our life. Moreover, piku'ach nefesh is practiced daily in any ER and doctor's office, regardless of a patient's insurance. If at all, the governmental bureaucracy is more of an impediment than anything else. 3] Why do we need a bill of a 1000 pages which will provide our "friends", the trial lawyers, with income for several generations when the problem could be solved by 3 simple measures?- 1] Mandatory, minimal individual, portable health insurance, not tied to one's workplace, similar to mandatory car insurance. Those who want more expansive coverage would have to pay more. 2] Abolish the clause of "pre-existing conditions". Similar to high- risk drivers, patients with serious medical conditions could be placed in a high-risk insurance pool in which all insurance companies participate. 3] Comprehensive tort reform, including "loser pays". More than 50% of medical tests are ordered not for medical but for legal considerations. Rabbi Saperstein, his leftist brethrens from the ghettos in California and the North-East and their bosom friend in the White House don't have a monopoly on compassion. Their favorite quote of "Tikkun Olam", over-used ad nauseam, is always cited incompletely - on purpose they leave out "B'Malchut Shadday" (under the Kingdom of Ha'Shem!). Then again, what do our enlightened Reform brethren know about Ha'Shem? After all, he is not a memeber of the Democratic Party. 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 Mr. Evans! Anti-Semitism, like stupidity cannot be unlearned. You chose to disregard facts, mentioned by others, because they don't fit your warped views. Let's make this simple: There was never a nation called Palestinians. Most of today's so-called Palestinians are, like most Israeli Jews, descendants of immigrants; in the Arabs' case, these were farmworkers imported by the effendis to work their latifundia. Jewish settlement in the early 20th century actually increased the influx of Arabs into Eretz Israel because the Jews treated these workers better than the effendis would. After the War of Independence, caused by the aggression of the Arab League, a population exchange occurred, like after many wars, e.g. Greeks and Turks after WW I, Muslims and Hindus after the partition of the Indian subcontinent into India and Pakistan in 1948. Finally, Eretz Israel belongs to us as it ever did. Nobody, particularly nincompoops like B.Hussein Obama or you, will ever displace us from there. Like an old Middle Eastern proverb states:"The mangy dogs may bark, but the caravan moves on relentlessly." 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 Isn't is interesting that for Mr. Evans every nation that fosters terrorism, like Iran and the so-called Palestinians, are innocent while Israel, the main target of these "innocent" terrorists, is guilty? That is classic anti-Semitic reasoning - after all it was the main line of the Nazi propaganda against the Jews in the uprising in the Warsaw Ghetto. I guess, for Mr. Evans every Jew in Israel who believes in defending his God-given right to settle in Eretz Israel is automatically an nasty aggressor and the cause of all evil in the Middle East. Finally, there are lies, damned lies and then there are video tapes - doctored by Mr. Evans' peace-loving buddies from Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran etc. Mr. Evans, there is an old Viennese saying, which I learned from my father, that applies to you: "You are not even worth to be ignored!" Have a nice trip to hell. 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 Ari, before chiding me about historical ignorance, go and check the facts! When Hitler expanded his grip over Europe and some 9 million Jews fell under his rule, the British under the leadership of, among others, Anthony Eden issued their infamous White Papers in 1938/39 which closed Mandate Palestine for Jewish immigration. This effectively condemned the European Jews to a death trap where 6 million perished. In my book, the British and, to a lesser degree, the FDR administration with its anti-Jewish immigration policy should be viewed as unindicted co-conspirators to the Nazis. This evolution marked the beginning of the illegal immigration ships, Aliyah Bet, and the armed struggle against Britain. Read "The Abandonment of the Jews" by David Wyman - ignorance can be remedied by literacy. 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 Peter, the attempts for peace with the Arabs began long before the State of Israel existed - even in the 1920's the Jews in Eretz Israel restrained their responses to Arab pogroms in Jerusalem, Hebron etc. and followed the path of appeasement and acquiescence to the British restrictions on immigration. If you don't know the results, let me enlighten you - 6 million murdered and no peace. Whether you support my position or not is irrelevant. The only issue that counts is Israel's survival. For us, whose parents fought against the Nazis and their British henchmen, i.e. Anthony Eden etc., this is the essence of our struggle. Also, please tell me where the "occupied territories" begin and Israel proper, according to your high- minded definition, ends? If you talk about the pre-1967 borders, you might have found out, if you would have informed yourself on the subject, that these were the lines of the armistice, concluded in 1949, and never a mutually recognized border. But, it is always easier to spout pious platitudes than to confront the facts. BTW, if the so-called "Palestinians" were sooo desirous to make peace, why wouldn't they accept Barak's infamous offer of retreat from 95% of Yehudah and Shomron in 2000? Why don't you honor the Arab and Muslim websites with your beatiful proposals and see their "civilized" responses? 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 To Mr. Wedlund! If you believe that Obama is interested in anything except his own self-aggrandizement I would like to sell you a nice bridge in Brooklyn. Contrary to your ignorance, most Arabs left Israel in 1948/49 because their friends from Egypt, Jordan, Syria etc. told them to get out of the way, in order that their mighty armies could slaughter the Jewish dhimmis easier. Yehudah and Shomron are no less the heartland of Israel than Tel Aviv or Haifa. The obstacle to peace are not the new Jewish towns and villages there but the unrelenting enmity of the Arabs and their neo-Nazi propaganda, which suffuses the life of millions of Muslims from schoolbooks to weekly sermons in the mosques. Mr. Wedlund, before you start spouting your pacifist drivel, kindly educate yourself in the facts. 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 To the benighted ASC - Israel lacks nationally important sites besides Yad Vashem?? Let me enlighten you and other of your fellow ignorants: I would first take Mr. B. Hussein Obama to the Temple Mount, then to the recently excavated palace of King David, to the Machpela Cave in Hebron and, finally, to Masada. Only then would I show him Yad Vashem. BTW, since when have ideologues like Obama ever deigned to delve into fine distinctions, like Mr. Kropf correctly points out, if they didn't fit their slogans? 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 Contrary to conventional stupidity which seems to be B. Hussein Obama's guiding principle, except for his anti-Semitism, until 1948 and throughout 400 years of Ottoman rule, Jews were a majority in Jerusalem. Thus the Arabs are the interlopers in Jerusalem. What the anti-Semites in the State department acnowledge or not is not relevant. What is a concern is the abject blindness of our left-wing brethren who, like in the dark days of FDR, place more importance to lick the president's boots than to defend Israel and their Jewishness. To all these useless idiots and other benighted post-Zionists - answer this question: Who would care a lick about Jews without the existence of Israel? 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 There is an old proverb:"You can take the Jew out of the ghetto but you cannot take the ghetto out of the Jew!" Dershowitz is a worthy successor to the tradition of the Jewish "leadership" in WW II, like R' Stephen Wise or Sam Rosenman, for whom it was more important to to lick FDR's boots than to save their fellow Jews from the Shoah. Congenital lack of spinal fortitude and abandonment of Jews in danger on the altar of Democratic party ideology is ingrained in the elitist Jews that infest the halls of academe not only in the US but in Israel as well. The late great Jabotinsky termed this attitude - "ideological sha'atnez". To the benighted Mr. Shugerman: If you consider Obama in the same vein as Cater, you are right - but not for the silly reasons that you cited. They are both, in the depth of their being, anti-Semites who cloak themselves in the mantle of pacifism. 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 This is not an ad hoc group of rabbis but an ad shmuck gang of goyim. As for the "poor people of Gaza" - when Sharon, to his ever-lasting shame, evicted the Jews from Gush Katif some 3 years ago - an act for which he and his henchmen are now existing in a live purgatory - the Arabs received a group of thriving settlements which they could have continued to develop. Instead, the "poor Palestinians" elected Hamas in democratic fashion as their leader, began a rain of rockets and a reign of terror and turned a previously blooming strip of land into a hell hole. As long as this went on with impunity I didn't hear any complaints from our left-wing rabbis in the peanut gallery. If anyone needs an object lesson on the insanity of "Land for Peace", he just should recall these facts. As usual, our brethren from the liberal ghetto barely remember yesterday's headlines, but never abandon their pacifist stupidity. 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 Seems that y'all forgot that the Satmarers and Neturey Karta commemorate Yom ha'Atzma'uth just like the Arabs - as NAKBAH (catastrophe). They embraced Arafat and any murderer who wants to wipe out Israel, including Ahmadinajead. To write a silly letter to Obama is probably one of the least odious things they have done in the last 60 years. These are the last dinosaurs from the East European ghettoes who evidently still long for the good old days when every goy spat in their face, called them a dirty Zhid (Jew) - and they could bow their weak spine and tell their kids that spittle in the face was "rain". 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 Who decided that the Zionists in Yesha are extremists? JTA? The UN? Obama? These people are among the best and most loyal defenders of the survival of the nation of Israel. Most of their youngsters serve in elite units in the IDF. Just because the left wing pseudo-intelligentsia in Israel and the West have declared themselves to be post-Zionists does not validate their warped definitions and opinions. In every generation since the exodus from Egypt a majority of Jews have compromised their heritage for some momentary expediency. The Jewish people did not survive 4000 years beause of these cowards but despite of them. Those who opposed us have deservedly ended up on the garbage heap of history. 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 To David the Hick! You are a prime example of an uninformed spouter. What occupation? What annexation? In your feeble mind, our presence in Haifa and Tel Aviv falls apparently also under these categories. What is the real issue? - Israel's existence as a Jewish state in their ancient land, including Yehudah and Shomron. To remind you and others like you - the original Balfour Declaration included Trans-Jordan. 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 Who the heck wrote the script that we have to constantly devise new "peace" plans for our destruction? Bibi finally laid down markers for our benefit and protection. For some 90 years Jewish left-wingers and Socialists as well as "Realpoliticians" in the West have played the game of appeasement and restraint towards the Arabs at the expense of Jewish lives. Jabotinsky fought it then and his warnings ring true as ever today. Only in the craven minds of the appeasers is there a difference between Tel Aviv and the new settlements in Yesha. For the Arabs there is none. They want to divide Jerusalem and keep Hebron "judenrein" because they understand that this is the root of our existence as Israelis and Jews. Einstein's definition of insanity: To repeat the same action over and over and expect a different outcome! 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 It is hard to omprehend how an intellectual nitwit like Prof. Thistlethwaite is let loose on the unformed minds of young students to fill their feeble brains with her leftist drivel. Please, enlighten us where Limbaugh or Hannity have been factually wrong - or where Biden, Obama and the DailyKos were correct? BTW, if one right-wing extremist murderer justifies the idiotic DHS report, then how much more do the Islamic terrorist attacks all over the world justify the view that Islam is a religion that spawns hatred and violence? Sorry to stump you, dear Prof., with such logical non-niceties. Lady, you are not beneath contempt; you are, as my late father used to say, "not even worth to be ignored." 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 So, according to the Torah of Nadel, right wingers are the same as Nazis??! May I then conclude that liberals leftists, like he and Obama, are the same as Stalinists? It is always amazing how many of our Jewish brethren are blinded by their own faddish ideologies at the expense of historical facts and logical thinking. The great Jabotinsky used to call this "ideological Sha'atnez." Anti-Semites come in all colors and ideological stripes; in fact this is where Obama is most similar to FDR - both sophisticated and genteel anti-Semites who abandoned/will abandon the Jewish people when it is convenient. 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 First of all, President Obama IS the wrong horse and Abbas is nothing more than a washed up figure-head that has barely enough support to be elected dog catcher in Bir Zait. Now a few questions to Mr. McDonough and the other "educated" elitists: 1] Israel retreated from Gush Katif 3 years ago. Any peace on that front?-No! 2] When have the Arabs ever declared that they accept the existence of Israel regardless of the borders?- Never. 3] Why did Arafat, of cursed memory, refuse Barak's peace plan which would have returned 96% of Yehudah and Shomron to the Arabs?- Because the so-called Palestinian leaders are in line with Hamas and Iran. 4] Since when has any international border ever been established between Israel and Jordan?- Never. The pre-1967 border was nothing but an armistice line. 5] What is the difference between an Israeli in Tel Aviv and Ariel?- None. Both live in the homeland of Eretz Israel. If one disputes our existence in Yehudah and Shomron then he also doesn't recognize our right to live in Haifa and Eilat. Just beause a pro-Muslim American president and some "enlightened" pinheads want us to commit suicide through negotiations should anyone expect us to succumb again to the stupidity of the Gaza retreat? I think not. The Jewish people have survived 2000 years not because they capitulated to every ideological fad du jour. 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 To Dr. J.A. Pussy,..er, Pluss - Minus! Self-hating Jews like Norman Finelstein or even Ziggy Freud are nothing new. The Jewish people didn't survive 2000 years because of them but despite of them. When I hear condemnations of crimes against Jews and Israelis by Arab murderers, then I might consider your irrelevant opinions and those of your "well- credentialled" ilk as wrong-headed but honest. Until then your braying from the safety of your academic cocoon is just that - vile expectorations of a self-important ass. BTW, I don't belong to any of the alphabet soup you rant about. Just an Israeli veteran. 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn! Lest we forget - it was the British who closed Eretz Israel when the Nazis murdered our people and owtowed to Arab terrorists. To such dainty sensitivities as exhibited by Ari H - go and live in Ramallah or Jenin and make peace with somebody who wants to kill you. 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 John, you should thank G'd daily for the existence of Israel. It saves you, the Americans, much more than the few billions Israel receives in aid. Over the last 60 years we have fought 5 major wars which contained the expansionism of the USSR and other tyrants in the Middle East. Without Israel the CIA et al. would have even more trouble to uncover Islamic terror plots.Americans were never asked and will never be asked to shed blood for us. We only need the weaponry from the US, part of which was BTW developed in Israel. In your feeble mind and those of your fellow anti-Semites AIPAC has evidently become the new "Protocols of the Elders of Zion." To you, Hillary, B. Hussein Obama and other cowards an old oriental proverb:"The mangy dogs bark but the caravan moves along!" 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 B.Hussein Obama is the 2nd coming of FDR. Both are closet anti-Semites but the lovefest for them among the useless idiots, a.k.a. liberal Jews, continues. 70 years ago it was more important for the Jews to tow the Democratic party line than to insult FDR in order to save miilions of Jews from the Shoah. Now, Obama has signalled his willingness to let Iran wipe Israel off the map as long as they don't bother Europe or America. And our benighted brethren?- Just like in the 1930's they are blinded by their own idiocy, ..er, ideology. Miriam, if you believe that stopping the rightful settling of Yehudah and Shomron is bad for America, I have a bridge to sell you that peace-loving Muslim terrorists almost blew up. As for Hillary - if, in the spirit of the Obama punkocracy, she stretches out her open hand to us we should return this gesture with an outstretched middle finger! 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 To David,arty and other Kooks! Before you slobber all over each other in your lovefest for the "poor Palestinians" may I inject a heavy dose of relity into your infantile minds. Fact: There was never such a thing as thing as the Palestinians. Until the UN dreamed it up, they were considered part of Syria. Fact: Give me a definition of the term "settlements" - Only places like Ariel, Ephrat? Why not Tel Aviv or Haifa? The notorious line of pre-1967 was only the result of an armistice and NEVER a recognized border. Besides, according to the Balfour Declaration, Transjordan also belongs to Eretz Israel. Fact: The Palestinian refugees have been kept in camps by their fellow Arabs, not by Israel. Population exchanges happen after any war, e.g. Greeks and Turks after WW I. Finally, if you love a free Palestine so much, go and live in Ramallah or Sh'chem and enjoy. Sitting in America and crowing bravely from under your baby desk is easy. Go where I have been and fought them, then talk. As usual, the depth of dumbth of liberals will never be exhausted. A Red-Neck Israeli 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 Better idea: Freeze Biden, Kerry and Co.! Won't be too complicated - their brainsare already frozen. Larry, nice idea but a bit optimistic! Have you ever known a liberal, moreover a Jewish liberal, to admit being wrong? Not even on Yom Kippur! 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 Kevin & Matt, you are shining examples of dumb - dumber - Jewish liberals! Before the switch, Arlene the Specter was a RINO, now he is officially a political prostitute. Fits right in with the current punkocracy that occupies the White House! 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 Congrats to Chris Doyle for being a liar and a fabricator of blood libels! No surprise, his Arab masters still discuss how the blood libel could be proven "scientifically". Congrats to the directors of the Bloomin' Theatre in London for being appeasers in the worst tradition of Neville Chamberlain! Or, on reflection, maybe heirs to the tradition of Houston Chamberlain, one of the first notorious proponents of racial anti-Semitism and Richard Wagner's son-in-law, to boot. Anyway, keep those umbrellas handy! 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 Finally a sensible piece of legislation to come out of this Congress! As to Archie: It continues to amaze me how deeply rooted the ignorance and stupidity of the liberal appeasers is. It was precisely this blindness that led to the disarmament of the Western Allies in the 1930's and enabled Hitler to conquer much of Europe to the cost of over 50 million death in WW II. Boychik, if you haven't noticed we ARE at war with Islamic Nazis worldwide. This law would be just another step in the right direction. If you don't believe me, may I suggest a trip to your local madrassa? Just be sure to identify yourself as a non-Muslim! 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 To Joel Rosenthal - I suggest you get real and awake from your Obamania. Obama is a punk in demagogue's clothing who needs a teleprompter to remind him what to say in order to obfuscate his radical, leftist and anti-Israeli agenda. I am glad to hear that Biden finally believes in something, even though he is the quintessential dolt from inside the Beltway and usually wrong. Never mind, we have overcome bigger idiots than these two - remember Harding, LBJ, Carter?! 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 Why do Messrs. Lynton, Sanderson and Ginsberg conjure up the famous statuette of the 3 monkeys - don't see/hear/speak? BTW, do Reform rabbis know to recite the Aleph-Beth, or even what a brachah is?- Guess not. I know it is not P.C. but just thought I'd ask. Alex Golan 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 When will our benighted liberal Jewish brethren wake up to the fact that there is more morality and compassion in the Jewish traditions, particularly the Seder, than they will ever know or even want to learn? Politically correct fads disappear but Jewishness is timeless - evidently this basic lesson is lost in every generation! After all, already in Pharao's days only 20-25% of the Israelites in Egypt followed Moshe Rabbeinu, while the majority preferred the easy (P.C.) solution of slavery to freedom - thus they disappeared on the garbage heap of history. If anyone wants to remember a meaningful event, I suggest to leave an empty seat in memory of heroes of Ghetto Warsaw - the uprising began on the evening of the First Seder, 1943. 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 Dear Stuart! It is an old tactic of the Nazis and Stalinists to accuse dissenters of engaging in their own propaganda. If you would have read my comments without your blinders on, you would have noticed that I never mentioned any party affiliation nor my citizenship. May I suggest a remedial course in reading comprehension, preferrably at elementary school level, so you don't embarrass yourself wih foolish answers to topics that were never at issue. Alex Golan 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 Well congratulations to all my liberal Jewish brethren whose ideology is evidently more important than their Jewishness! I guess the slogan "Am Israel Chai" (The Nation of Israel lives!) has been supplanted by "Obama Ueber Alles!" Fact - The difference between moderate Palestinians and Hamas is the speed with which they want to exterminate Israel. Fact - Every terrorist that was released from an American or Israeli prison has returned to murder again. Fact - The Arab press is the direct heir to the Nazi propaganda, including the infamous style of anti-Semitic cartoons from the "Stuermer". Fact - If the younger generation of Jews in the USA holds such extremely liberal opinions in favor of appeasement and capitulation, then it is entirely the fault of the Jewish educators who consider anything that smells of Jewish-Israeli nationalism as trefe. Last question - Does anyone believe that with such attitudes 70 years ago the US and its allies would have defeated the Nazis?! If yes, I have a dozen of umbrellas, Model Neville Chamberlain, for cheap. It seems that we Jews are the nation with the longest history in the world - and the shortest memory. Moshe Rabbeinu said it best in the Torah, Par. Ha'azinu - "...a base and stupid people.." Alex Golan 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 To Messrs. Stolow and Arnold! It is this basic lack of understanding by "enlightened" Jews, how to confront the Arabs, that has been the root of many failed policies of appeasement since the days of the British Mandate. There is nothing in the Geneva Convention that pertains to Jews living in their ancient Land. The pre-1967 borders were the lines where the truce was announced in 1949 and NOT internationally acknowledged borders. As for restitution, ask the descendants of the Jews that were chased out of Hebron in 1929, whose ancestors had lived there since the days of Abraham, or the displaced residents of Gush Katif. Definition of insanity - to repeat the same failed policy of land for peace and expect a different outcome. 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 Let me correct Mr.Simon on his terminology - 1] The area in question is only geographically called "West Bank"; the correct historic term is Yehudah and Shomron (Judea and Samaria) and this is an integral part of Eretz Israel. 2] Definition of Arab Moderate - someone who wants to destroy Israel after convincing Israeli Moderates to give away what is rightfully part of Israel. After all, why fight when there are enough corrupt Jewish politicians who are willing to capitulate? 3] Land for Peace - the triumph of insane hope over experience. 4] Jewish settlers - any Jewish Israeli; unless Mr. Simon can explain the difference between a Jew living in Ephrat or in Tel Aviv. 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00 To abrogate the right of any Jew to acquire property in Yehudah and Shomron, particularly in Hebron, is terrorism by fiat of the state! To declare a legal purchase null and void for purely political reasons is judicial terrorism! Jews have lived in Hebron continuously since times immemorial until they were murdered or expelled by the Arabs in 1929. Then the British stood by and didn't defend the innocent civilians nor did they punish the perpetrators or return the property to its rightful Jewish owners. Now the Jewish anti-Semites of Kadimah and Labor under the direction of the corrupt and bankrupt Olmert and Barak have acted in the best tradition of the British and the Mufti. It is long past time that Olmert spend his retirement behind bars. BTW, where do settlers live in Eretz Israel? Only in Hebron, Amona, Modi'in etc.? Why not in Tel Aviv or Haifa? Until the Arabs accept the irreversibility of the existence of Israel no "peace process" can be meaningful. Giora Ben Yair 2009-11-22T;16:45:00-05:00