Denial of bail to Rubashkin fueling legal controversy http://jta.org/ENTRY_PERMALINK_HERE/denial-of-bail-to-rubashkin-fueling-legal-controversy/ Two organizations are protesting efforts by U.S. prosecutors to deny bail to a plant manager at Agriprocessors on the grounds that he poses an added flight risk because as a Jew he could acquire Israeli citizenship. en-us bharris@jta.org Copyright 2009 2009-01-06T;18:35:00-05:00 Comment by George Lakehomer kingofgab@interlync.com Those federal prosecutors in Iowa are just ignorant to actually have the chutzpa to deny bail in part, because they believe Israel has some “automatic citizenship” law. There is no such thing - just ask Meyer Lansky. All this noise about automatic return obfuscates the more serious reasons for denying Ruashkin bail - the violation of countless federal laws regarding child labor, violation of immigration laws and human smuggling, aiding and abetting in the falsification of citizenship papers, violation of other labor laws pertaining to work hours and working conditions, and don’t forget inflating Agrigprocessor’s accounts receivables well above actual amounts so he could borrow more than banking regulations permitted from his bank. This is a man who doesn’t deserve bail - the whining about things like “automatic citizenship” and saying “...it’s really an attack on kosher food” are an attempt to cover up what a ganef Rabashkin is - we should all be ashamed. Those federal prosecutors in Iowa are just ignorant to actually have the chutzpa to deny bail in part, because they believe Israel has some “automatic citizenship” law. There is no such thing - just ask Meyer Lansky.

All this noise about automatic return obfuscates the more serious reasons for denying Ruashkin bail - the violation of countless federal laws regarding child labor, violation of immigration laws and human smuggling, aiding and abetting in the falsification of citizenship papers, violation of other labor laws pertaining to work hours and working conditions, and don’t forget inflating Agrigprocessor’s accounts receivables well above actual amounts so he could borrow more than banking regulations permitted from his bank.

This is a man who doesn’t deserve bail - the whining about things like “automatic citizenship” and saying “...it’s really an attack on kosher food” are an attempt to cover up what a ganef Rabashkin is - we should all be ashamed.

]]> 2009-11-08T;03:12:00-05:00 Comment by Hannah yofi524@msn.com I think the prosecution is looking for any reason to deny bail. The “automatic” citizenship” is anything but. My husband and I are in the process of applying now, and they keep putting more and more pieces of paper in front of us to fill out. I have had to fax some paperwork more than once, as it seems to get lost. You have to swear you have not committed a crime, and with all the publicity in this case, Rubashkin would have to sign yes. He could go to Israel just like any other tourist, but they should not have a reason to protect him, given the notoriety of this defendant. The main point is- there is no automatic citizenship, and he would have to fight the bureaucracy like anyone else, unless the Immigration Office is corrupt. So this reason to deny bail seems bogus, as Mr. Edelstein has said. But I have another concern: if Mr. Rubashkin has so much money with which to pay bail- millions- why couldn’t he pay his employees better? I think the prosecution is looking for any reason to deny bail.
The “automatic” citizenship” is anything but. My husband and I are in the process of applying now, and they keep putting more and more pieces of paper in front of us to fill out. I have had to fax some paperwork more than once, as it seems to get lost.
You have to swear you have not committed a crime, and with all the publicity in this case, Rubashkin would have to sign yes. He could go to Israel just like any other tourist, but they should not have a reason to protect him, given the notoriety of this defendant. The main point is- there is no automatic citizenship, and he would have to fight the bureaucracy like anyone else, unless the Immigration Office is corrupt. So this reason to deny bail seems bogus, as Mr. Edelstein has said. But I have another concern: if Mr. Rubashkin has so much money with which to pay bail- millions- why couldn’t he pay his employees better?

]]> 2009-11-08T;03:12:00-05:00 Comment by Yonason Wolff jnrwolff@earthlink.net To Ralph Barguin:  I am an black hat Orthodox Jew; three generations of my family, including my son, have served in the United States military during wartime.  What are youir loyalty credentials?  Furthermore, Rubashkin may well deserve to be incarcerated, an issue which the criminal justice system will resolve, but your comment reflects the most base of prejudicial and uninforned sleaze.  Shame on you Herr Barquin. To Ralph Barguin:  I am an black hat Orthodox Jew; three generations of my family, including my son, have served in the United States military during wartime.  What are youir loyalty credentials?  Furthermore, Rubashkin may well deserve to be incarcerated, an issue which the criminal justice system will resolve, but your comment reflects the most base of prejudicial and uninforned sleaze.  Shame on you Herr Barquin.

]]> 2009-11-08T;03:12:00-05:00 Comment by ralph barquin ralphbarquin@hotmail.com I think the man and his company deserve to go to jail for a very long time and that he would flee to Israel is let out . Then the US taxpayer would have to spend millions of dollars getting him back if they could. I am also very glad this is close to the end of Attorney General Mukasey’s and President Bush’s coddling of the Orthodox in this country. My hope is for the next administration not to play to this group of Orthodox as their initial loyalty is to their religion and not to country first. I think the man and his company deserve to go to jail for a very long time and that he would flee to Israel is let out . Then the US taxpayer would have to spend millions of dollars getting him back if they could.
I am also very glad this is close to the end of Attorney General
Mukasey’s and President Bush’s coddling of the Orthodox in this country. My hope is for the next administration not to play to this group of Orthodox as their initial loyalty is to their religion and not to country first.

]]> 2009-11-08T;03:12:00-05:00 Comment by David Sternlight david@sternlight.com As with the case of Jonathan Pollard, with which I do not compare the substance, the litmus test is whether the treatment by prosecutors is consistent with other, similar cases. There is good reason to believe in both cases it is not, and that raises the most serious concerns about equal treatment under the law. I do not enter into the merits of either case beyond the above. David Sternlight, Ph.D. Los Angeles As with the case of Jonathan Pollard, with which I do not compare the substance, the litmus test is whether the treatment by prosecutors is consistent with other, similar cases.

There is good reason to believe in both cases it is not, and that raises the most serious concerns about equal treatment under the law.

I do not enter into the merits of either case beyond the above.

David Sternlight, Ph.D.
Los Angeles

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