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    <title>Postville Jewish community struggles to survive after raid</title>
    <link>http://jta.org/ENTRY_PERMALINK_HERE/jewish-community-of-postville-struggles-to-survive-after-raid/</link>
    <description>With the Iowa town&apos;s kosher meat plant facing an uncertain future, financial troubles are mounting for its Jewish community (read article, watch video).</description>
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      <title>Comment by George Lakehomer</title>
      <link>kingofgab@interlync.com</link>
      <description>I strongly agree with Norman Pressman&#8217;s comments as shown above.


Today&#8217;s JTA article points out Rubashkin has substantial liability for &#8220;...his alleged role in a scheme to defraud the company&#8217;s bank, as well as a hot of charges relate to his role in helping procure false documentation for the plant&#8217;s illegal work force.&#8221;


Please note that the myriad labor law violations are not mentioned &#45; and those that are reported are far more serious.


Jews have neglected both Biblical and Talmudic obligations to the immigrants who worked at the factory, especially after the raids in May.&amp;nbsp;  That their only option was to become felons through a plea&#45;bargain resulting in several months of incarceration prior to being shipped back to their native country by Immigration is an ending the we, as Jews, should be ashamed of, to have stood by and allowed this to happen.


In the name of Kashrut, or Heksher Tzedke?&amp;nbsp; Indeed, I think not.


All Jews should be ashamed of the collateral damage.</description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I strongly agree with Norman Pressman&#8217;s comments as shown above.
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Today&#8217;s JTA article points out Rubashkin has substantial liability for &#8220;...his alleged role in a scheme to defraud the company&#8217;s bank, as well as a hot of charges relate to his role in helping procure false documentation for the plant&#8217;s illegal work force.&#8221;
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Please note that the myriad labor law violations are not mentioned - and those that are reported are far more serious.
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Jews have neglected both Biblical and Talmudic obligations to the immigrants who worked at the factory, especially after the raids in May.&nbsp;  That their only option was to become felons through a plea-bargain resulting in several months of incarceration prior to being shipped back to their native country by Immigration is an ending the we, as Jews, should be ashamed of, to have stood by and allowed this to happen.
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In the name of Kashrut, or Heksher Tzedke?&nbsp; Indeed, I think not.
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All Jews should be ashamed of the collateral damage.
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    <dc:date>2009-11-23T;13:31:00-05:00</dc:date>
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      <title>Comment by Sheldon Green</title>
      <link>sheldonlgreen@hotmail.com</link>
      <description>Rubashkin can no longer be trusted to lead any company responsible for conducting a &#8220;Kosher&#8221; business.&amp;nbsp; While I understand the angst of our fellow Jews in Postville, I find it distressing that they are judging Rubashkin on what he provided for them rather than what he did to so many victims.&amp;nbsp; 


Also, it is, in my opinion, the responsibility of the presidents of the Major Jewish Organizations to clean up this mess.&amp;nbsp; This is, when you strip away all the nonsense, a problem created by a Jew that effects many many people&#45;&#45;it is our responsiblity as a Jewish community to lead the effort to make Postville &#8220;whole&#8221; again.</description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rubashkin can no longer be trusted to lead any company responsible for conducting a &#8220;Kosher&#8221; business.&nbsp; While I understand the angst of our fellow Jews in Postville, I find it distressing that they are judging Rubashkin on what he provided for them rather than what he did to so many victims.&nbsp; 
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Also, it is, in my opinion, the responsibility of the presidents of the Major Jewish Organizations to clean up this mess.&nbsp; This is, when you strip away all the nonsense, a problem created by a Jew that effects many many people--it is our responsiblity as a Jewish community to lead the effort to make Postville &#8220;whole&#8221; again.
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      <title>Comment by Norman Pressman</title>
      <link>nwp@goldsteinpressman.com</link>
      <description>Gentlemen:


Rubashkin, Agriprocessors and the Postville Jewish community are not the victims of anti&#45;semistism they are the cause of it.&amp;nbsp; 


Many national leaders simply fail to understand the gravity of the situation.&amp;nbsp; Jews just like Italians, Irish and other groups complain when their group is stigmatized by the actions of a minority.&amp;nbsp; But the point our national secular leaders fail to understand is that the Agriprocessors group has essentially been given a franchise by the OU which in turn is given a franchise by the general Jewish community.&amp;nbsp; Thus the actions of Rubashkin reflect on all of our community in a much different way than let&#8217;s say the cosa nostra&#8217;s actions reflect on Italians or the way OJ&#8217;s actions reflct on African Americans.&amp;nbsp; And speaking of OJ the protestations of the orthodox community that &#8220;Nothing has been proved&#8221; while true, remind me of OJ&#8217;s claim of innocense&#45;who believes that either is not guilty?


The bottom line is tht the OU&#8217;s policy was to produce cheap kosher meat and turn a blind eye to the conditions at AGP.&amp;nbsp; The recent editorial in the Forward said it all.


The presidents of the Major Jewish Organizations shouldorganize a drive to suppor tthe town of Postville instead of leaving the clean up of our mess to a local Catholic Priest


I&#8217;m looking forward to the day when the Trustee sells to an honest group of businessmen who will run the business in a way that we would all be proud.&amp;nbsp; Remember Jews were at the forefront of the labor movement.&amp;nbsp; And Jews were for the most part the victims of the Triangle Shirtwaist factory fire  which started the movement.


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Rubashkin, Agriprocessors and the Postville Jewish community are not the victims of anti-semistism they are the cause of it.&nbsp; 
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Many national leaders simply fail to understand the gravity of the situation.&nbsp; Jews just like Italians, Irish and other groups complain when their group is stigmatized by the actions of a minority.&nbsp; But the point our national secular leaders fail to understand is that the Agriprocessors group has essentially been given a franchise by the OU which in turn is given a franchise by the general Jewish community.&nbsp; Thus the actions of Rubashkin reflect on all of our community in a much different way than let&#8217;s say the cosa nostra&#8217;s actions reflect on Italians or the way OJ&#8217;s actions reflct on African Americans.&nbsp; And speaking of OJ the protestations of the orthodox community that &#8220;Nothing has been proved&#8221; while true, remind me of OJ&#8217;s claim of innocense-who believes that either is not guilty?
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The bottom line is tht the OU&#8217;s policy was to produce cheap kosher meat and turn a blind eye to the conditions at AGP.&nbsp; The recent editorial in the Forward said it all.
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The presidents of the Major Jewish Organizations shouldorganize a drive to suppor tthe town of Postville instead of leaving the clean up of our mess to a local Catholic Priest
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I&#8217;m looking forward to the day when the Trustee sells to an honest group of businessmen who will run the business in a way that we would all be proud.&nbsp; Remember Jews were at the forefront of the labor movement.&nbsp; And Jews were for the most part the victims of the Triangle Shirtwaist factory fire  which started the movement.
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      <title>Comment by David Sternlight</title>
      <link>david@sternlight.com</link>
      <description>It is important to provide support to those temporarily unemployed, and public and private mechanisms exist for that.&amp;nbsp; More importantly, no one seems to have asked if the Rubashkin plant, if operated fully in compliance with the law, could be an economic &#8220;going concern&#8221; in today&#8217;s market, given the existence of competition both from Kosher meat and from Kosher Chicken, and given the price response of consumer demand. Part of this demand is exposed tot the wider market, since Kosher meat and especially Kosher chicken (including in the past that from Rubashkin) are widely carried, suitably wrapped, by non&#45;Kosher mainstream supermarkets, and chains such as &#8220;Trader Joe&#8217;s&#8217;


This is critical to long&#45;term solutions starting now. If the plant isn&#8217;t viable, relocation strategies are needed for workers; if it is viable, temporary worker support in&#45;place is indicated.


The longer we wait for (for example) the Iowa Economic Development authority to assist in such a determination, the more intractable the problem will become.</description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is important to provide support to those temporarily unemployed, and public and private mechanisms exist for that.&nbsp; More importantly, no one seems to have asked if the Rubashkin plant, if operated fully in compliance with the law, could be an economic &#8220;going concern&#8221; in today&#8217;s market, given the existence of competition both from Kosher meat and from Kosher Chicken, and given the price response of consumer demand. Part of this demand is exposed tot the wider market, since Kosher meat and especially Kosher chicken (including in the past that from Rubashkin) are widely carried, suitably wrapped, by non-Kosher mainstream supermarkets, and chains such as &#8220;Trader Joe&#8217;s&#8217;
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This is critical to long-term solutions starting now. If the plant isn&#8217;t viable, relocation strategies are needed for workers; if it is viable, temporary worker support in-place is indicated.
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The longer we wait for (for example) the Iowa Economic Development authority to assist in such a determination, the more intractable the problem will become.
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      <title>Comment by Adam in MD</title>
      <link>Adam.Allgood@noaa.gov</link>
      <description>Thank you, JTA, for finally printing an article that presents the human side to this immense tragedy in Iowa.&amp;nbsp; I have been distressed by the anti&#45;Orthodox coloring of much of JTA&#8217;s coverage of the Agriprocessors situation, from the denigration of Orthodox kashrus through the assertion that Orthodox Jews care more about how much they have to pay for meat than they do about workers rights and fairness.&amp;nbsp; This article at last addresses the realities that are the basis of the Orthodox community&#8217;s reaction to this situation: real families, both Jewish and non&#45;Jewish, are struggling with poverty and despair, unable to put food on their tables.&amp;nbsp; Let the argument about Sholom Rubashkin&#8217;s cupability rest for just one minute: the Federal Government could have handled the case in any number of ways that left Agriprocessors running, but they chose to come in force, rip families apart, and strike a crippling blow against the economic engine of Postville.&amp;nbsp; Even the New York Times decried this Federal response, which had no regard for the welfare of either immigrants or US citizens.&amp;nbsp; Why did they do this?</description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, JTA, for finally printing an article that presents the human side to this immense tragedy in Iowa.&nbsp; I have been distressed by the anti-Orthodox coloring of much of JTA&#8217;s coverage of the Agriprocessors situation, from the denigration of Orthodox kashrus through the assertion that Orthodox Jews care more about how much they have to pay for meat than they do about workers rights and fairness.&nbsp; This article at last addresses the realities that are the basis of the Orthodox community&#8217;s reaction to this situation: real families, both Jewish and non-Jewish, are struggling with poverty and despair, unable to put food on their tables.&nbsp; Let the argument about Sholom Rubashkin&#8217;s cupability rest for just one minute: the Federal Government could have handled the case in any number of ways that left Agriprocessors running, but they chose to come in force, rip families apart, and strike a crippling blow against the economic engine of Postville.&nbsp; Even the New York Times decried this Federal response, which had no regard for the welfare of either immigrants or US citizens.&nbsp; Why did they do this?
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      <title>Comment by Sitting Bull</title>
      <link>chief&#45;sitting&#45;bull@hotmail.com</link>
      <description>I noticed 3/4 of Iowa flooded, not including Postville, right after the raid. and then by September 2008 the Agri plant floundered on the brink of collapse and the American economy did too. Now they will not give this Rubashkin guy bail. I read bible stories about these people, and believe me these are authentic Bible characters sure as I am standing here, and what happened to Pharaoh in Egypt, Pharaoh did not listen or see it either. I mean all he did was employ people who sent charity back to their momma; It is not like there are not 12 million of these people here, maybe we better find someone else to make an example out of.&amp;nbsp; I am scared what is going to happen next;  I mean Jesus also broke some dumb law about people changing their foreign money for COWS that were to be slaughtered and Jesus was arrested for treason and the Romans convicted him and stuck him on a cross! maybe we better let these people go. I mean what is next: flood, economic depression,  financial system collapse, GM/ Ford near collapse Please Let him go before the next divine retribution.&amp;nbsp; I guess most of you do not see it yet, I just hope we get it in time before to much damage is done. Let him go</description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed 3/4 of Iowa flooded, not including Postville, right after the raid. and then by September 2008 the Agri plant floundered on the brink of collapse and the American economy did too. Now they will not give this Rubashkin guy bail. I read bible stories about these people, and believe me these are authentic Bible characters sure as I am standing here, and what happened to Pharaoh in Egypt, Pharaoh did not listen or see it either. I mean all he did was employ people who sent charity back to their momma; It is not like there are not 12 million of these people here, maybe we better find someone else to make an example out of.&nbsp; I am scared what is going to happen next;  I mean Jesus also broke some dumb law about people changing their foreign money for COWS that were to be slaughtered and Jesus was arrested for treason and the Romans convicted him and stuck him on a cross! maybe we better let these people go. I mean what is next: flood, economic depression,  financial system collapse, GM/ Ford near collapse Please Let him go before the next divine retribution.&nbsp; I guess most of you do not see it yet, I just hope we get it in time before to much damage is done. Let him go
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      <title>Comment by Sitting Bull</title>
      <link>chief&#45;sitting&#45;bull@hotmail.com</link>
      <description>New episode in trail of tears. Indians inhabit and roam America for thousand years before undocumented  White Eyes invaded and stole our land. Now White Eyes pretend to himself Native Americans have no right to be here or work here; White Eyes talk till he believe his own BS. Now White Eyes covets &amp;amp; steals Jew meat plant and blame Native  American worker. Now Chief Bull prove with one example White Eyes speak with fork tongue: if so called CHILD worker rob bank, White Eyes try child as ADULT every time. Maybe Indian wish White Eyes go back where HE came from, White Eyes have no legal or moral right to keep out Native American whose family been on continent since before time of Jesus.&amp;nbsp; Even White Eyes own 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals recognizes Native American sovereign immunity rights.</description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New episode in trail of tears. Indians inhabit and roam America for thousand years before undocumented  White Eyes invaded and stole our land. Now White Eyes pretend to himself Native Americans have no right to be here or work here; White Eyes talk till he believe his own BS. Now White Eyes covets &amp; steals Jew meat plant and blame Native  American worker. Now Chief Bull prove with one example White Eyes speak with fork tongue: if so called CHILD worker rob bank, White Eyes try child as ADULT every time. Maybe Indian wish White Eyes go back where HE came from, White Eyes have no legal or moral right to keep out Native American whose family been on continent since before time of Jesus.&nbsp; Even White Eyes own 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals recognizes Native American sovereign immunity rights.
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